Ok, so what I’m hearing is that you’re agreeing with me that it’s a silly argument, but for a different reason - that volcano’s are devastating and we shouldn’t settle for just “less than devastating”. Is that right?
It initially seemed like you were arguing that volcanoes are bigger that I was aware of, and therefore might be more impactful than humans on the environment. But that’s probably because people always argue online 😅
I’m aware. Do you have something more to say?
Yeah, I wholeheartedly encourage constructive debate and skepticism. However, it doesn’t excuse repeating shitty arguments without doing anything thinking or research just because it makes you feel less bad and lets you not do anything.
One example that particularly bothers me was “humans affect on the climate is less than a single volcanic eruption”. There are a lot of things you could not trust about scientific reporting, but the base premise of 8 billion people flying around the world using decomposed dinosaur mass is at least an order-of magnitude larger in scale compared to a single volcanic eruption. At that point, you’d have to believe that there isn’t really 8 billion people or that oil is actually from somewhere else.
In summary I agree, I just want to add nuance that this doesn’t excuse people acting in bad faith. It’s important that everyone, not just scientists, recognize their emotions and bias and challenge their own arguments against these (I.e. am I just making this argument because I feel defensive?)
You’ve got to keep in mind that everyone doesn’t feel the same. I personally feel gross having anything to do with leather because I can’t shake the feeling it’s a corpse’s skin. It would be the same to me if it was a dead human’s skin.
I’m not asking for understanding on how I feel, but more just understanding that maybe natural leather is the best option for most people right now in terms of environmental impact - but it’s important we develop other solutions too and try to make them more environmentally over time, because not everyone is the same.
Yeah this drives me crazy. I grew up where the old white men loved boating and fishing in the rivers, bringing the family out to enjoy nature. Now that it’s all getting contaminated and turning gross, even the dumbest person who actually valued ‘conserving’ would realise we actually have to do something.
Instead, we’ve got billboards up and down the country trashing the Paris agreement and the old white men are only interested in attacking the other tribe. Not a hint of concern for the environment. They’re not interested in conserving anything other than their social status and corresponding power.
It might be naive of me but I think there is. It’s a lot of work but we can develop self -sustaining communities that support each other. That support can look a variety of ways too, from shopping at each others small businesses to sharing crops from gardens and farms.
There is definitely no magic country though. I just returned to my home country after jumping from job to job in Europe trying to find a place for me and my family that wasn’t awful. Unfortunately, being an immigrant is hard no matter where you go and people will take advantage of your vulnerability.
Yeah not having a government issued email is completely bonkers in this day and age. They should never have allowed Google to fill that gap.
Yeah that’s true
Yeah it is insane how many of them have no higher education, or conversely simply got a PhD and have never worked in industry before
I mean, yes, but not nearly as much
Na they’re long - they’re sitting 2 rows back /s
Don’t worry buddy, I get it. I feel the same way about USA
This is an incredibly frustrating part of my work with startups. I do economic assessments for climate tech, and if it doesn’t work on paper then you can be damn sure it won’t magically start working in the real world. There are millions of reasons a startup might fail and very few that even give a chance for success (big VC success, not just normal profitablity or survival).
In summary I agree it’s a massive lottery, but it drives me crazy how much investment goes to lottery tickets that don’t even have a legitimate chance of success.
Yeah one of the biggest learnings for me over my career is that people are hard-wired for stories. It doesn’t matter how good an engineer/scientist you are, how well explained or robust the logic/study is, etc. People only respond to how things make them feel - we are emotional beings with the ability to rationalize, not the other way around.
I mean, you COULD just have a massive membrane area. They won’t, cause that’d be crazy, but you could.
Thank you, that resource is fantastic - so much stuff to read!
Because exactly those things you describe (as well as some other factors/events) were reckless, violent experimenting (ideological, military, technological). And now we’re finding out. Like I’m not sure if you’re aware but the world changed ridiculously fast during the 1900s and now the early 2000s compared to the rest of history.
We found out ages ago, told everyone, and no-one did anything
Y’all are missing something imo. Landlords are artificial demand - they drive up the housing prices for everyone, including home owners.
The argument that it costs to maintain a home blah blah is BS - if it wasn’t profitable then the landlords sell it. They’re not being charitable. They make a profit and it comes out of poor people’s wages.
A likely indicator of ADHD