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What makes it “false” is that it deliberately leaves out multiple other factors that do not fit your narrative of “Israel = evil Jewish colonizers from Europe” and “Palestinians = poor victims being oppressed”.

Directly neighbouring Arab and Muslim countries and areas exiled, killed and drove out Jews amounting to more than 850 thousand who went to Israel.

That the people who we call Palestinians today in the area denied the two-state solution at that time because they did not want Israel to exist. They wanted to rather have war instead of getting their own state and share the land.

The animosity and multiple wars that were started against Israel for purely religious and ideologic reasons from the other side as well. The religious zealots aren’t only on Israel’s side.

There are numerous countries that came into existence by wars and in a similar way as Israel. It’s even less of an issue here because it’s not even a part of a country which declared independence, there wasn’t even a country in the first place!

Israel did not come into existence just because of Zionism. About half of the Jews in Israel are Mizrahim who are native to the area. They had an inferior status in the Islamic society. By your own logic it is understandable that they ultimately pushed back and declared independence after being treated as second class people for generations.

No, I don’t mean those in the past. But those happening right now.

That’s such an incredibly reduced “summary” that you can as well call it false. But in your eyes good and evil are strictly defined. Must be nice (for you). Sadly, that’s neither helpful, nor good, nor a solution.

You don’t seem to know a lot about the area.

What about the approximately 20 % Palestinian Israelis? And do all of the Israelis have to disappear somehow and look for a place to live in other countries? Or only those who are first generation immigrants? Are you against immigration in general, btw?

“Kick people out of their homes”, so are you talking about the illegal settlements in the Westbank now?

You could start reading about in on Wikipedia.

You are talking about how every group can be discriminated against and how you aren’t even sure if it really is antisemitism and how anti-semitism is often just misunderstood totally valid Israeli criticism.

Hmmm… Sounds to me like you don’t want to see the issue here.

Who is supposed to pay those reparations if Israel doesn’t exist anymore and there are no Israelis?

How are the Jews supposed to protect themselves from the people who want them out of the country or dead (which is the reason why Israel came into existence in the first place)?

What kind of state do you think Palestine would be? Or is it okay to have a Muslim ethnostate but not a Jewish one?

Than if Palestinians now want to exile Israelis that also gives them the right to fight back.

So you basically don’t want the news or anyone to talk about it because it’s a non-issue?

What is supposed to be done about the rockets shot at Israel and about the terrorist attacks?

They were already living there as well. You do realise that, yes?

People are really uneducated about how Israel came into existence. This is a country from a group of people who already lived there. It wasn’t external conquerers who came to the land.

So you people actually want Israel to be gone? Where shall all the Israelis go, in your opinion? And why do the Israelis have less of a right for a country than the Palestinians?

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In Europe there are more Muslim refugees though, than, for example, in North America which gets more regular Muslim immigrants.

It’s a specific problem in Europe with an influx of refugees from war torn and poor countries who are often troubled, more extreme in their religion and potentially less educated (because they fled from shitty countries).

I guess it’s more connected to those circumstances than with Islam in itself. Statistically, more educated and better off people are less religious. I suspect that’s the same with Muslims?!

This is a great resource and post! I feel bad for commenting already but I can’t help it.

OpenSuse is missing and, this is of course personal opinion, but I think Debian is a great distro for beginners.

Also OpenSuse can be great for beginners. Though not as much as Debian.

How do you suppose they should have proceeded instead?

If it’s similar to the boars we have in some areas here, the wolves better bring the whole gang and protective equipment :/