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  • I’ve called the context the religion was formed in absurd (not a judgement because modern culture is absurd), and said the Church of Satan has effectively called them pussies (it has), but have not called the TST or it’s adherent’s stupid.

    It’s all pretty stupid IMO, aside from the way they can mount legal challenges.

    I was just surprised you said TST was a pretend religion cause the only way they’re effective in challenging laws is being a real religion, like that’s a harsh way to undermine them.

    Undermine them? What?

    Okay. I’ll accept that I’m undermining them if you show me 1 (one) court case I have lost for the TST by saying they are not a real religion. I’ll wait.

    The made up definition to amend that statement having no basis in real law is irrelevant.

    The definition was from an earlier comment where I explained it. Not my problem you didn’t pay attention.

    You can’t defend TST and believe they’re pretending

    I can, and will.

    But okay. Let’s say you’re correct. Let’s say you can only challenge laws and institutions like these by sincerely help religious beliefs.

    Show me the test to determine if a belief is sincerely held.

    It doesn’t matter if your belief is sincerely held or not, the courts have to treat religions equally, which is what the TST is here for.



  • Well, it doesn’t really matter since my definition of religion is not what the laws use.

    So when you say it’s a “pretend religion” you’re basically saying it’s adherents aren’t really religious.

    I say it’s a pretend religion because they’re not trying to manipulate their members for power over them and profit, and/or they’re not trying to get them to believe in the supernatural.

    This is clearly different from the law’s misunderstanding of what a religion is, as pointed out by yourself:

    "Courts actually do care about whether someone truly believes in a religion, because someone’s supposed religious beliefs are often appealed for why someone is a “good person,…”

    If you were filing a lawsuit like the one in the article and you professed it was a “pretend religion” your case would be thrown out,

    Fortunately for the lawsuit, it wouldn’t because the definition of religion the court uses and mine if different.


  • Well, they’re not trying to manipulate their members for power over them and profit, and/or they’re not trying to get them to believe in the supernatural, so they’re clearly not a real religion.

    I suspect a lot of TST members sincerely believe in the tenants

    Good, they are very good tenants to live by, I salute them. I try to do so myself.

    To call it pretend like you have is way harsher than anything I’ve said about it, you’re basically saying it’s all a ruse and the adherents are all just knowingly faking it for show,

    Why would it be harsh? That’s something you inferred, not something I said.

    I personally don’t think pretending to be a religion is a bad thing, it’s a necessary thing. You seem to be projecting a lot of you own opinions onto what I actually said.

    which would mean they couldn’t legitimately challenge laws as a religion.

    How so? What qualifications do you have to decide which religions are allowed to be recognized under law?










  • My bad, my comment required not just reading this article, but having a basic understanding of current events, and that was clearly way too much to expect from you.

    There’s no mention of anybody sending porn to anyone

    “It sends a report to your accountability partner. My accountability partner right now is Jack, my son. He’s 17. So he and I get a report about all the things that are on our phones, all of our devices, once a week. If anything objectionable comes up, your accountability partner gets an immediate notice.”

    So if he looks at anything “objectionable” (meaning porn), it sends it so his underage son.

    let alone about reading books to kids in a costume

    That part was about the conservative outrage about people in drag reading to kids. I was pointing out how drag is apparently too sexual for kids, but their fathers porn watching habits is not not.