his views as expressed by himself on his site are also pretty extreme, and I don’t find those good

I’ve always found Stallman’s views to be impeccably rational. To me, the extremity is instead in the irrationality of those who find Stallman’s views extreme. In general, people aren’t rational and find it difficult to cope when they come across a person who is. I think this is why so many people find Stallman’s notes distasteful.

Irrationality is also why I find this report to be so ugly: it’s full of non sequiturs. It’s a product of irrational, seemingly damaged minds.

LOL I disagree.

did some cool things with software

LOL what an understatement

when he threatened suicide if Betsy did not agree to date him

I skipped to the section on allegations of misconduct and stopped reading here. They just quoted Stallman saying he didn’t threaten suicide and then the (nameless, cowardly) authors immediately say “he threatened suicide”. Despicable. There is nobody to back up Betsy’s side. There’s no response from Betsy to Stallman’s recent comments on the incident. And yet this is the first “corroborated” example they come out with.

This site is another insidious hit piece full of holes. I pity the authors that they’re so twisted and power-hungry in their relentless attacking of a man who has clearly suffered for having a different mind to most and yet also contributed so much. Much more, I would guess, than these snakes will ever contribute.

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LOL I’m not asking because I don’t understand and I want you to explain it to me, I’m trying to get you to see the error in your thinking.

No. Heat affects everyone. Regarding Debian, what exactly do you think has affected everyone?

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it’s entirely Stallman’s own fault for being a freak

Takes notes

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So then your original question isn’t ‘How “out of date” is Debian really?’ but ‘If you complain that Debian is “out of date”, what do you mean?’

Not new

And what do you mean by “new” exactly?

What do you mean by “out of date” exactly?

Jesus grow up

a pleasant discussion

About what?

I thought you were legitimately confused

I’m just curious: if I had been confused, what were you expecting would have happen if you simply repeated what the article had already stated without adding anything?

in their own field there’s a good chance they have something useful to say

Pity this press release wasn’t one of them.

You’re just repeating the article. Nothing you said contradicts what I said.

It’s a HINT

What is?

“One could not be a successful scientist without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of scientists, a goodly number of scientists are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.” ― James D. Watson, The Double Helix