I have a feeling they’re gonna charge like $200 to $400 more then blame the regulators.

  • Ziggurat@fedia.io
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    2 months ago

    Just a couple of years back, you would get replacable batteries, at least from “phone shops” with dedicated tools.

    Designing a water tight enclosure which can be opened to replace a battery isn’t exactly rocket science. It doesn’t need to be as easy as a fairphone.

    Sure some brands will do malicious conpliance and guess what, people will bux from other brands.

  • Opinionhaver@feddit.ukEnglish
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    2 months ago

    Samsung somehow managed to include removable battery, a headphone jack and SD card slot in the XCover 6 Pro while maintaining ip67 rating and a price of under 700 euros. I’m sure they’ll be able to figure it out.

  • RandomUser@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 months ago

    Battery replacement is an issue, but is easily solved with good design. I don’t need the thinnest phone that’s difficult to hold, a few extra mm won’t affect my life negatively. I’d rather have something usable and maintainable.

    My biggest gripe however is the built in obsolesce of software support life. Perfectly good electronics are rendered useless by the system not receiving software / security updates after a couple of years.

    • Aux@feddit.ukEnglish
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      2 months ago

      That’s how all computing hardware works since the early days of the industry apart from x86 architecture. Not sure why people only started noticing that recently after literally decades of software obsolescence.

      • DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca
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        2 months ago

        Routine updates. Until recently hardware was getting better at such a rate they’d upgrade before software became an issue. The power increase curve has mostly plateau’d over the past several years so the incentive to upgrade is significantly lower so people are keeping their older hardware for longer and suddenly seeing the problems. That and the average user is now getting more aware of security updates.

  • luluu@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Wasn’t it actually apple with the adhesive strips that can easily be removed when a current is applied? Such tech would be awesome if more generally available

  • MrSulu@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    2 months ago

    I’d like to see a requirement for microSD card storage. The cost of storage an phones is entirely deplorable

  • halcyoncmdr@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 months ago

    They’ll make them replaceable and ignore waterproofing them for 99% of models citing the added difficulty in making a good seal without being able to glue it shut. Which is arguably true. It’s possible, but more difficult to design and much more likely to fail.

      • halcyoncmdr@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        2 months ago

        I never said it was impossible. I said it was harder to both make them replaceable and water resistant. And they won’t bother to do both for 99% of models, they’ll just drop the water resistance to comply with replaceable battery requirements. There might be a few that they bother and then sell at inflated prices.

        • luluu@lemmy.world
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          2 months ago

          There’s a difference between waterproof and rainproof. The Fairphone (just has a clip on back panel for easy access to the battery) is rain proof

      • halcyoncmdr@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        2 months ago

        Having worked in retail phone repair for 15 years, both for a major US carrier and privately… A lot.

        I saw water damaged phones every single day, and I’m hundreds of miles from an ocean, sea, lake, or any major body of water. That’s just from mistakes near things like backyard pools.

  • lurch (he/him)@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    they will put the battery in a section not waterproof under the back cover. the replacement battery will come with a waterproof glue circle around the contacts. when replacing it, you will rub off some old glue and seal it again by inserting the new one. water can enter the back cover, but do no harm there.

  • solrize@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    It sounds like the regulation is weak enough that the manufacturers won’t have to do much. I have to say batteries or chargers have gotten better. Batteries used to fail all the time, but they last much longer now. So people are less bothered.

  • over_clox@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    They’ll either make the phones dumb again, or make the batteries replaceable again.

    If they do the latter, they’ll probably just make them even thinner, requiring you to replace them more often.

    • Cyrus Draegur@lemm.eeEnglish
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      2 months ago

      they’ll make smaller shittier batteries that die more quickly so that they can charge more to replace them and put proprietary control chips inside them so either third party manufacturers of better batteries will have to “violate copyright” in order to make them work or YOU’LL be required to “violate copyright” to make them work, thus locking most people without the technical skills to circumvent the ‘security’ into only buying the shitty ‘official’ batteries until MORE regulation comes along to make them cut that shit out. In the mean time they’ll be blaming the regulations for the shittiness they adopted.

  • alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 months ago

    We will have to see.

    Apple can charge $400 more, but if Samsung doesn’t, then they will lose market share.

    And the EU is still one of the worlds three biggest markets.

    So I am not really concerned.

    And worst case, I switch to a Fairphone, which might not be bleeding edge, but it is still a better phone than my previous gen flagship Samsung or the flagship iPhone that came before it.

    I see it as just running 2 years behind.