• Tikiporch@lemmy.world
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    13 hours ago

    “I believe allowing Donald Trump to take even much more power via a government shutdown is a far worse option.”

    What’s his reason for saying this? How does a government shutdown give Trump more power?

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      4 hours ago

      I say this with no sarcasm whatsoever… Its not like anyone is opposing Trump anyway so what’s the point of capitulating and preventing a govt shutdown… There is no point other than bending a fucking knee.

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      9 hours ago

      A congressional recess during shutdown means that nobody would be left to hold Trump accountable. Except, they’re already not doing that, so…

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      6 hours ago

      If the goverment shuts down, the buildings and agencies will be empty, because all government workers will be home. But DOGE and Musk arent government workers, and theyll have unimpeded access to EVERYTHING, with absolutely nobody to observe what they are doing.

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      11 hours ago

      It doesn’t. He is lying and he knows it. I won’t attempt to recreate his spin, because it doesn’t make any sense.

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        10 hours ago

        Congress in theory has the power to hold back, punish, or even remove the president. The government shutdown causes a congressional recess.

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      13 hours ago

      Citing what I saw on Philip DeFranco earlier, apparently in a shutdown the executive branch has a lot of power in terms of what specifics get shutdown and how.

      Was news to me considering the shitshow that happens every time the budget needs to be voted on but with all the DOGEness going on makes sense that there’s extra caution around this. Still sucks that Dems rolled over so easily.

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        12 hours ago

        Nothing is stopping the republicans from shutting it down themselves if it was so beneficial to Trump.

        And it’s not like they wouldn’t lie and blame it on the Democrats, so there’s minimal risk in voter agitation vs alleged reward.

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          I think mostly it is revealing about Schumer’s priorities. He has a government job. If everything within the buildings in Washington DC is mostly still working the way it’s supposed to, then at the end of the day he still gets a paycheck and some important stuff to do every day. Lots of people across the US going through upheaval, losing their jobs, maybe getting detained indefinitely or not, journalists getting threatened, all that stuff isn’t, like, good, but it’s also not an existential threat to him. The government shutting down would be.

          And so, avoiding that is a key priority of his. It’s urgent. All that other stuff is not.

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          11 hours ago

          Plus it’s a great opportunity for dozens of trolls to push a republican narrative on social media. Maybe a message to anyone left-leaning to stop voting.

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      12 hours ago

      Yeah that’s my question too. Does it unlock some military related powers? Maybe if there is no gov theres no legal oversight power?

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        It doesn’t unlock anything new, it just removes the lion handler from the lion’s circus act. Although, that lion handler was a Republican majority and wasn’t doing anything anyways.