• Bloomcole@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    Maybe if those Banderites wouldn’t have massively broken the Misk accords and bombing civilians they wouldn’t have to.
    Maybe read an OCSE report.
    FAFO

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      3 days ago

      I genuinely can’t find whatever the fuck you’re talking about. Banderites apparently refers to the group all the way back in WWII. Are we still supposed to hate Germany now?

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        3 days ago

        You really had to look up Banderites?
        I shouldn’t be surprised. Unfortunately there’s a lot of people who don’t know the fascist history and how plenty they still adore this genocidal nazi. Not something the western press writes about bcs 'no nazis in ukraine".
        https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/europe/2018-12-27/ty-article/ukraine-designates-national-holiday-to-commemorate-nazi-collaborator/0000017f-f310-d223-a97f-ffdd21e50000
        And here’s the daily OSCE report from 1 day before Russia intervened:
        https://www.osce.org/files/2022-02-20-21 Daily Report_ENG.pdf?itok=82567

        In Donetsk region, between the evenings of 18 and 20 February, the SMM recorded 2,158 ceasefire violations, including 1,100 explosions (144 outgoing, 19 airbursts, 37 impacts and 900 undetermined). The majority of ceasefire violations were recorded on the morning of 19 February in areas east, east-south-east, and south-east of Svitlodarsk (government-controlled, 57km north-east of Donetsk)

        In Luhansk region, between the evenings of 18 and 20 February, the SMM recorded 1,073 ceasefire violations, including 926 explosions (112 outgoing, 44 impacts and 770 undetermined). The majority of ceasefire violations were recorded in areas close to the disengagement area near Stanytsia Luhanska (government-controlled, 16km north-east of Luhansk)

        The hostilities had massively increased showing the Banderites were ready to do an offensive to finally genocide the ethnic Russians which their PM called SUBHUMANS in true nazi style.

        And if there are germans celebrating Hitler, then yes I would certainly hate them too.

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          3 days ago

          Ah, an Israeli newspaper. That doesn’t sound good for a start, but it doesn’t matter anyway because I can’t read the damn thing, and I’m not looking up how to bypass that.

          Regarding OSCE, I looked it up a bit to understand what it actually was, and besides the fact that the ceasefire has been broken for years (since Russia took the region without Ukraine’s will, and the reason the “ethnic Russians were genocided” was because Russia wouldn’t stay put in 2014), OSCE themselves condemned the Russian invasion.

          https://www.oscepa.org/en/news-a-media/press-releases/2022/osce-parliamentarians-condemn-russian-military-action-in-ukraine-call-for-de-escalation-at-vienna-winter-meeting

          And lastly, nobody denies all those 1/1000 nazis in Ukraine, there are facsists everywhere. Russia itself is halfway to being a facist state by the Wikipedia definition, if it isn’t already. I say we genocide them, actually. (That’s not what I think, but it’s how you sound right now.)

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            3 days ago

            there are plenty sources and monuments that show how they like Bandera since they are proud of it.
            https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineNaziWatch/comments/1icooer/rzeczpospolita_poland_exprime_minister_of_poland/
            That sub is full of it.
            The Banderites had a western backed coup and the south and east didn’t want to live under their regime.
            Obviously there was no ceasefire broken sice there was no Minsk accord yet.
            And OC the biased EU OSCE and a Polish minister would comdemn the Russian intervention.
            Doesn’t change the fact ukraine broke the Minsk accords and they reported it themselves as I showed.

            there are facsists everywhere

            Ah the good old excuse. Tell me another country where they have fascists divisions in the army and the government that call their enemies ‘subhuman’ and talk about exterminating them?
            And you clearly know as little about Russia as ukraine. It is right wing yes and I’m not a fan of Putin.
            But he is by far the lesser evil against nazis and US imperialists, forever at war somewhere. The enemy of my enemy…
            Wikipedia is a manipulated shit source. This has been proven many times, you don’t know that either.