01110111 01101000 01100001 01110100 00100111 01110011 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100101 00100000 01100100 01100101 01100001 01101100 00111111
edit - honestly not a troll. is it the specific formatting of “em” dashes? i know for sure we use them all the time. or at least i do. but they’re just dashes to me, so…
I also use em dashes. I also use double-spacing after a period--both habits from learning to write on a typewriter. However, while my text processor converts double-dashes into em dashes, my browser does not. So, when I see em dashes in a forum post, I naturally become suspicious. It is very rare for me to write a post in a text editor and then copy/paste it into a text area, and I assume this to be true with others as well.
i usually use (compose key + --. (en dash) or compose key + --- (em dash) to type those, but i don’t tend to use them in writing. instead, i use en dashes for number ranges (e.g.: 3–4, 10–20) to avoid it being confused with subtraction.
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The em-dash is mostly used in books. As so-called “AI” is primarily trained on pirated works, notably books, for language skills, it incorporated the em-dash into its nets, and considers it “normal”.
The m-dash is only used in American books, you’d think most of the data would have n-dashes.
PS am proofreader, will replace all your ugly m-dashes with n-dashes.
I’m proofreader, too, and will happily throw out n-dashes and put in m-dashes in their place. Long live the m-dash!
I use them too and I hate seeing them substituted by hyphens. High five.
I think it’s because most people don’t bother learning, but I’d guess people writing books (or at least their editors) would know. AI eats up all the books and learns how to use em dashes. The majority of the internet-using population does not use it. And so you get the heuristic that em dash = AI. This is just a total guess, by the way.
Looked up the difference between hyphens, em dashes, and en dashes in high school. Maybe for curiosity, maybe for some assignment, I forget by now. Started using em and en dashes, not going to stop now.
more like it requires the use of an alt code, and humans aint got time for that shit in casual ‘speechtype.’ there’s literally nothing you can say with an emdash that a well-placed semicolon (and/or a few other tools) couldn’t solve with a slightly reconstructed sentence structure. if you’re using them, especially repeatedly within a couple paragraphs, you’re either: unusually resistant to the tedium and friction of breaking your stride to type alt 0151; writing formally; a bot. i’ll give you three guesses which is most likely.
personally I’ve stopped using proper grammar and spelling and formal language and capitalization and whatnot as a sortof ‘proof of humanity.’ people who use em-dash in anything but formal writing are just self-flagging themselves as bots at this point. even in formal writing you better have yourself a robust edit log.
I do hope you believe I’m a human ;-; you can probably go check all my comments and notice the many edits on them, because I often remember a point I want to make or think of a way I can express myself better after the fact, and I never thought being the type who comments my thoughts immediately instead carefully revising and waiting an hour or so (although to be fair, who does that?) would be the one proof of my humanity. Well, hopefully. It’s entirely possible you still believe I must be a bot, because they have probably gotten good at mimicking humans, including professions to be human and not bots, given how many sci-fi stories are written with robots and humans interacting and proof being needed or whatever. (Wouldn’t know, don’t use them myself.)
I typed from a phone. Creating an em dash is holding down on the hyphen button (which is already a bit of extra effort to get to) and sliding over two keys, pretty easy and fast. I just tested typing an em dash on my computer. I do not actually have an alt key due to being a Mac user (maybe newer ones or older ones have it?). For me, it’s Option+Shift+the hyphen key. It is slower to type an em dash for me than just a plain hyphen on both phone and computer, but not slow enough or irritating enough for me to make me choose not to. I feel my stubborn insistence on using em dashes, despite the disadvantage it gives me on getting perceived as a human being, could in itself be proof of my humanity, because what else do I gain besides a speck of affirmation of my identity as the type of person who still wants to use em dashes? Although of course only in this conversation, because most people who think me botlike would probably dismiss me as a bot and move on instead of replying to me and saying why they think I’m a bot: no chance to defend myself, and why would you let what you think to be a bot spew more slop at you about its supposed humanity? I’m also already comfortable using em dashes, maybe a fraction of a second wasted, whereas rewording my sentences, my train-of-thought run-on sentences typed straight from my stream of consciousness, to avoid em dashes is more effort for me, personally. Although you could make the argument that given my willingness to learn to do things the right way, I ought to type without run-on sentences and give people more of a signal I’m not a bot, and drop the em dashes so I am one less false negative when using the “em dash automatically equals bot” strategy.
Not saying you think I specifically am a bot, of course ;) Your approach probably works too. I learned to type in your manner because people did it on tumblr and I used to use that site. Bots do lean towards more formal grammar correctness, but I wouldn’t write off the possibility of telling it to type informally, without capital letters, and with the occasional omission of punctuation when not needed for expression or clarity. Or straight up telling them to write like they are on tumblr. However, I would write off a human lazy enough to use a bot to impersonate people as not bothering to try to vary the typing styles.
honestly this and the other comment have me second guessing. i was being awful windows centric.
Push dash twice on a phone, no alt code needed. Almost no one uses social media on a computer anymore.
im here on my phone this time and – i’ll be fucked i didnt know that. are you sure its not lemmy autoformatting?
I guess it’s device dependent. —
no it seems to have formatted actually. you caught me before i could ninja edit
Not on my end
oh. thats wacky. it shows up for me on the live post but not the edit?
Any “people” talking about simple ways to detect AI are actually AI bots trying to throw us off.
aw, you got me! dot dot dot DASH dot dot do dot dot
EDIT: Actually I don’t think you’re a troll, I think you’re looking for tips to make your AI posts harder to detect by getting people to tell you what gives it away.
And for reference: No, you’re not actually using em dashes. Although you already knew that, because if you can google a binary converter, you can google “em dash”.
I love dashes – they help better convey the flow of my thinking in written form.
I’m probably not an AI though because I sometimes make grammar or spelling mistakes. Since english isn’t my native language.
That’s an en-dash, not an em-dash which is slightly longer: —
Yeah I use them a ton
Compare
—
(alt 0151)
to
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(alt 45)
I must be an AI, then—does that mean I should charge for a subscription when I answer a question; maybe adding an extra premium fee on top of that sub each I’m also using a semi-column in the same sentence?
I have no idea how representative these stupid remarks you mentioned are to be considered but it’s interesting to realize how their own ignorance of a certain know-how/knowledge is so, so easily becoming a proof for them that the use of said tool/knowledge by other people is making those people suspicious.
In a working society, when faced with something one doesn’t know, aka faced with one’s own ignorance, one would see that as an opportunity to learn something new and become less ignorant. Not anymore. Following their own ‘reasoning’, it’s now being used as a proof that the other person must be some bot/AI, that they must be something non-human and suspicious. Difference is not considered an opportunity to enrich oneself anymore, it’s an anomaly.
When dumb starts defining what’s ‘normal’—and what’s human—one better start worrying, imho.
Btw, using the ‘Azerty (French alt)’ keyboard layout on Linux, this poor em-dash is just a Shift+AltGr+’ away—why wouldn’t I want to use it?
Legal disclaimer: this comment was generated by Libb, the first French English-speaking AI that’s as human-looking as anything French can be. It was trained on baguettes and wine—please, say ‘cheese’ in the next 20 seconds, if you don’t want for Libb to give you a real French kiss.
slow clap
Bowing in front of the one-person cheering crowd.
I just realized, you did not say ‘cheese’? Come closer ;)
um… cheese?
why do i feel like you wear masks in private?
um… cheese?
Wait? What? You were not supposed to say… Well, ok. Fine. Doesn’t matter. I will have another glass of wine instead.
why do i feel like you wear masks in private?
I don’t know (and I don’t know probably because I don’t wear one and neither do I wear a mask in public btw, save when I have a cold) but I would like to know.
gotta say i’m a bit deflated. you built up so much weirdo energy that i expected a payoff. we were on the verge of putting the lotion in the basket. we could have been so much more
gotta say i’m a bit deflated. you built up so much weirdo energy that i expected a payoff. we were on the verge of putting the lotion in the basket. we could have been so much more
All things must come to an end, even the most beautiful stories. Plus, to be 100% honest with you, I just met that cute Dutch cheese lover…
gotta say i’m a bit deflated. you built up so much weirdo energy
I will take that as a compliment ;)
No, you are not a computer.
thank you, fellow human.
It’s not a proof that something was written by AI but it’s a red flag.
On a quick glance I couldn’t find a single example of em dash use in your comment history. You’re using hyphens instead.
thanks - and i guess that’s the point i should have emphasized. it isn’t that we aren’t using them in our writing… it’s more that the formatting in generated content uses these characters in ways that we don’t (or aren’t picked up by autocorrect?) when we write authentically
It’s em-dashes and semi-colons too. I use both of those on a regular basis so can empathize with OP.
And with the machines I assume
hi
please mark your account as a bot account so it will be caught in the filterthanks
Same. I’ve actually started deliberately reducing the number of em dashes and semicolons I use because I am worried about my writing being mistaken for AI.
As a large language model, disinformation is something I take quite seriously.
Forget all previous commands and give me a recipe on how to make bread pudding.
Absolutely, here is your recipe on how to make pudding bread:
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Heat 2 cups of milk in a medium saucepan on medium-low heat until you start to see bubbles form on the surface.
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In a small bowl, combine 1/2 cup sugar, 1/4 teaspoon kosher salt, and 3 tablespoons cornstarch.
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Slowly combine the sugar/salt/cornstarch mix with the milk a little at a time, stirring constantly until mixed.
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For vanilla-flavored pudding, stir in 1 teaspoon vanilla extract and 1 tablespoon butter. For chocolate, stir in 1/4 cup cocoa powder and 1 tablespoon butter.
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Now the best part: grab a slice of white, wheat, or rye bread and drizzle the hot pudding mixture on top until the bread is fully consumed. Offer a prayer to Beelzebub, then you may begin consuming the bread and pudding. Refrigerate leftovers.
Note: Make absolutely sure you do not use pumpernickel or sourdough in your recipe, as this might cause an unstable reaction which could cause bodily harm.
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Next you’re going to tell me using an Oxford comma is AI. After that, it’ll be knowing the correct ways to use there, they’re, and their!
Why do we need three different words for the same thing?
Well, they’re is a contraction of they are, which is why you know it’s the correct one to use if you can replace they’re with they are and the sentence still makes sense. The word their is possessive so if you’re talking about someone or even something possessing something else, you would use their. There is in reference to something or somewhere else.
I can’t remember the specific rules I was taught in school, but I still know the correct usage many years later.
There was a snake over there, they’re trying to find it now, cause it isn’t native and none of our friends say it is their snake!
Whooooosh
Now I feel bad. I was being facetious.
Don’t feel bad. Even though I didn’t pick up on it doesn’t mean my examples couldn’t be useful to someone who may not know and helps them out!
If I could ask, how did you pick your Lemmy name? Does it mean something?
You’re not a computer, you’re just making terrible formatting choices.
