Diaper Don gonna order brown people to get bombed so he 'looks like a tough man".
Fuck that guy and everyone who voted for him. Or chose not to vote. Fuck you even more.
There is absolutely ZERO reason to believe that those who didnt vote would have voted for Harris. In fact, every person I know who didnt vote are trump defenders. Every one. Every. Single. One.
Fuck you even more.
I’ve never understood this pov. Sure you can say no vote was the same thing as a vote for trump, but surely the people that actually voted for him are worse, no? I can understand ‘fuck you just as much’, but even more?
It’s the apathy, or the belief that it somehow doesn’t matter. To quote Walter Sobchak:
Nihilists, fuck me. Say what you will about the tenets of national socialism, at least it’s an ethos.
“Looks like a tough man”. Is this really the level of political comprehension we’re working with? No wonder you idiots elected a fascist. Are all of you 12? Go back to playing fortnight.
OMG that’s hilarious. We haven’t declared war since WWII. But how many presidents have done just that? Good luck with that argument.
He’s not wrong. Definition of genocide and war crimes are also pretty clearly enshrined. As are our countries laws against funding them.
yhea, Have you seen the news?
rule of law is dead in the US
“I don’t care what that old paper says” -Trump
2/3 of Congress is owned by AIPAC so it wouldn’t make a difference anyway.
Even if we ignore the fact that he can easily coax our useless congress into agreeing, the entire government has done nothing but dance around this requirement ever since the end of WWII. You won’t see a congressional declaration of war unless its literally WWIII.
Taco’s a bitch, he’s leaking all this to get leverage to make a deal. He’ll pussy out and Iran knows it. They’re playing the same games with him but from a position of knowing he’s full of shit
I think most of those congressional powers have been eroded for a very long time.
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Ok, so he breaks the law, AGAIN… that’ll be how many times? And how many consequences? And how will he be punished? Who will punish him? Remember, this is an insurrectionist that the administration from 17-21 did not go after because it would have been “taken as political”. So, again, who cares what the law says, because he doesn’t.
Trump has already been impeached twice. What else could they do except attempt to remove him from power, and with what army?
Uh, my point exactly. Mother fucker thinks he’s untouchable because he is. The GOP have kneecapped our democracy to the point that if you are in power, you can do whatever the fuck you want.
Didnt the supreme court decide that a president can do whatever if its an “official act”?
Being impeached doesnt inherently carry consequences.
If you think of it like a trial, the house delivers the guilty verdict (impeachment), and the senate determines the sentencing. The senate basically said, “yea so what? No consequences”
If the senate would do their job too, impeachment would mean something
I think that at this point people should settle on the fact that the only consequences Trump will ever face is in a history book 30 years after WW3/Civil War 2.
Well except in the Reconstruction States because there will be a number of lies that will endure forever, similar to the Lost Cause and Stabbed in the Back myths.
maybe cynicism will help
I think cynicism is keeping a vast majority of Americans peaceful right now. We are being told we need to be peaceful, we feel the need to fight. We all cope with this insanity in different ways man.
We’re waiting on the Kilmar contempt case still aren’t we? (Refusal to turn the planes around)
Eh, he’s not the first president to do so. Not to dismiss your own anger at this, but not everything can be the absolute last straw.
I mean, the Constitution of the United States is also very clear the fucker wasn’t eligible to BE President again, but we all seem to have just shimmied right past that as well.
Do you mean because of the insurrection? I think there’s something in that part about Congress needing to do something too, so Congress dropped the ball on that.
The DoJ was a big help too
Congress has been shirking their responsibility to declare wars since the Gulf of Tonkin incident in 1964. They gave Presidents the power to carry out military actions abroad without a formal declaration. By passing the responsibility on to the president, Congress gets to avoid the blame for unpopular wars.
Even the Vietnam “War” which lasted 10 years, was never declared by Congress.
You know, that technically, when he violated his oath of office the first time, he resigned from his position. Once you violate your oath of office you no longer hold that office. You can do whatever you want to him, worse case scenario you have to wait for a pardon
Yeah but these laws are only meaningful if they’re enforced
I asked Merrick Garland if Trump had done anything wrong and he just shrugged and said “There’s no way for us to know for sure so we didn’t want to take any chances by pressing charges.”
Four years later, I feel like he made the right call. Imagine if the Biden DOJ had actually tried to press charges on Trump. Just imagine… I think we can all agree that their prudence and restraint really helped the US dodge a bullet.
I’ve never looked at it from that perspective. Now that I’ve tried, my nose and ears are bleeding, so that’s gotta be a good thing, right?
Oooh! Hey ask him where our fucking unredacted Mueller Reports are.
Lmao had to read it a few times. Ty
Meaningful laws for thee, laughable pretense for me
I wish the law worked that way, but there is no technicality that violating an oath of office triggers a resignation. Resignation is resignation.
It’s abdication. He’s already relinquished power. The reigns just need to be taken
If anything, the interpretation of “official acts” by the Supreme Court explicitly shields him. He cannot be held legally responsible for any decision carried out as president, which is terrifying.
- 🔫 the only way he will be held responsible and accountable.
Don’t miss next time.
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Bernie should be aware of the war powers act. It’s one of the worse pieces of legislation ever, but it makes the whole declare war thing largely meaningless.
The act gives a president the ability to perform military actions provided Congress is notified within 48 hours of the action happening. Then the president gets a free 60 days to do whatever without additional approval. Then there’s a further 30 days where forces should be withdrawing if there is no further congressional approval. However, that timeline doesn’t really matter, as the Supreme Court ruled under Clinton that of troops are gone by the time the case gets to them then it doesn’t really matter that the law was violated.
He should also be aware of this legislation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorization_for_Use_of_Military_Force_of_2001
… since he voted for it.
It allows military actions against any country that harbours al Qaeda… and Iran does harbour al Qaeda along with any terrorist group that aligns with their “death to Israel / America” dogma.
I also like the American Servicemembers Protection Act, which is a 2002 federal law that basically says, “if you try to charge any U.S. soldier or official for a war crime in the International Criminal Court, we will invade the Netherlands.”
Repealed by the House of Representatives in 2021.
No it doesn’t. Iran and Alqaeda are practically enemies.
The whole civil war in Syria was an example. Assad was being backed by Iran, Syria’s current president Ahmed al-Sharaa started as an al Qaeda fighter because al Qaeda was aligned against the government, whereas Hezbollah backed it.
You can’t understand the middle east unless you understand the Shia and Sunni groups and their hostility towards each-other. Pretending Iran supports anybody that says “death to America” means you’re about as knowledgeable about middle east politics as George W. Bush who tried to explain everything with “they hate us for our freedoms”.
You don’t understand geopolitics in general if you’re seeing everything from the ultra-atheist anti-religion perspective.
Interests are more significant than religious bullshit. In a theocracy religion is a tool the government uses to propagandize the public. Clearly Iran sees Israel and the US as enemy and they’ll use anyone will to weaken their enemies. Yup, they will even direct propaganda at you regardless of your beliefs if it serves their interests.
Clearly Iran sees Israel and the US as enemy and they’ll use anyone will to weaken their enemies
Clearly that isn’t true. You seem to have an overly simplistic view of geopolitics, and no idea what’s happening in the middle east. The enemy of my enemy isn’t my friend or my ally. They may also be my enemy.
In this case, Iran is a Shia theocracy. That means they support Shia groups and use those groups to try to fight against Sunni groups.
For example, Al-Ashtar Brigades is a Shia group that is fighting to overthrow the Sunni monarchy of Bahrain. Hezbollah is a Shia group backed by Iran. Al Qaeda is a Sunni group. IS/ISIS/ISIL are Sunni groups. All these groups are anti-American, but what’s much more important to them is the Shia / Sunni divide.
Can we not pretend like this hasn’t happened numerous times in the past. The US hasn’t been in a war since WW2 and yet somehow we keep ending up killing people in other countries.
Why do you let them set the narrative that a precedent of wrongdoing legitimizes future trespasses?
Im only pointing out that Bernie’s tweet is political posturing. The president had used troop deployments to enter wars that congress did not approve. Bernie acting like him tweeting how it’s illegal is gonna do anything is so stupid.
Don’t get me wrong I love Bernie but again this is political posturing. Propose articles of impeachment or stfu. Btw we’re already “at war” with Iran. Ted Cruz confirmed that they approved the missile strikes and have been providing guidance and support to maintain Israel’s advantage.
While offensive war is definitely wrong (I don’t personally think defending yourself is wrong however, although some will differ), none of the undeclared wars that the US has been in since WW2 have been illegal under the laws of the United States.
POTUS has the right to send in troops, Congress has the right to declare a war but if they don’t declare war that doesn’t change the fact that the POTUS is legally allowed to send troops in, particularly for UN peace keeping (ie Korea, Former Yugoslavia), but even in the absence of an international umbrella.
As per post above the US president can defacto start and run a war until congress turns off the financial taps or impeaches him, only they can declare a war, and they don’t like doing that, hence the last 80 years of defacto but undeclared wars
Yes, I understand the history, and I’m saying that all of those undeclared wars were a breach of the intention of the constitution to make the decision to go to war the purview of Congress.
It’s like all the other unwritten expectations of behavior that were never actual codified because the founders assumed politicians would be good people.
And now we have Trump who ignores every social more in the book and has shown that we really can’t leave good behavior down to “expectations.”
Do Vietnam and Korea not count as wars?
Or Indonesia, Laos, Cuba, Dominican Republic, Bolivia, Cambodia, Iran, Lebanon, Granada, Panama, Somalia, Bosnia, Croatia, Haiti, Congo, Iraq, Iraq again, Afghanistan, Philippines, Syria, Yemen, Somalia again, Libya, Niger, South Sudan…
I think Congress never voted on any of them and so they were never defined by the US as being at war. They were all military operations from the instruction of the president.
Potato potato
From the point of view of the people the bombs are falling on - agreed.
…but it’s important that Congress has effectively been removed from the decision making process for 60 years now. Presidents have been acting unilaterally for a long time, which makes it hard to criticise trump when he does the same.
Can’t lose a war if you retroactively count it as not a war 😎
They all did. They were just not formally declared, doesn’t make it less of a war in practice, but it does in the context of the law in discussion. Loophole mechanics.
I think Korea does and Vietnam doesn’t (to the US) or vice versa. I think one was conducted with the US officially entering the war and one “in support of” a participant of the war.
…but its all games to get around congress having to vote to go to war.
we keep ending up killing people in other countries
Excuse me, this is called “defending our interests”.
Ironically a war with Iran is against America’s interests. Before Trump was president most conservative war hawks vehemently opposed a war with Iran even though Netyahoo has been claiming they’re “6 months away from mass producing nuclear weapons” since 1995.
