As an Israeli* it’s definitely going to turn out better for us than if USA hadn’t joined in. As for the rest of the world, and specifically USA… I fucking hate where everything is headed, but I think USA can easily win this.
* An Israeli who, much like many Americans, is stuck with a government of criminally insane psychopaths he voted against and protested against. I in no way support the actions of the current government.
As an American I think we have the capacity but neither the will nor the leadership to do so.
Americans are still reeling from 20 years of pointless war in the middle east where we gained nothing, lost a lot of lives, money, and reputation and came back with credible accusations of war crimes. This is a bipartisan exhaustion. Trump tried to claim to be the peace candidate in 2024, and “America first” is claimed to mean neither war nor aid should be given to anyone.
So yeah, consent is being manufactured at the moment, but I suspect it won’t endure much loss. And I fear for American Jews once that happens because they’re likely to be blamed for the actions of the Israeli government. Especially given how little attention the “not in our name” movement is receiving.
Yeah, maybe. I specifically said “better than if USA hadn’t joined”. I’m not convinced that the US bombing made Iran more likely to use a nuke compared to 2 days ago. Nor any other country, for that matter. But hell, as I keep saying, I might be totally wrong about that.
Not an expert by any stretch, but I would say it is infinitely more likely Iran deploys a nuke now. The US has spent a lot of time over the past 80 years doing whatever it wants to countries it doesn’t like that don’t have nukes, and it leaves alone countries that have them.
If I’m Iran, and I don’t have a nuke, I would be on the phone 24/7 with Putin and Kim about using something they have to stage a “test” detonation on Iranian soil.
As an Israeli* it’s definitely going to turn out better for us than if USA hadn’t joined in. As for the rest of the world, and specifically USA… I fucking hate where everything is headed, but I think USA can easily win this.
* An Israeli who, much like many Americans, is stuck with a government of criminally insane psychopaths he voted against and protested against. I in no way support the actions of the current government.
As an American I think we have the capacity but neither the will nor the leadership to do so.
Americans are still reeling from 20 years of pointless war in the middle east where we gained nothing, lost a lot of lives, money, and reputation and came back with credible accusations of war crimes. This is a bipartisan exhaustion. Trump tried to claim to be the peace candidate in 2024, and “America first” is claimed to mean neither war nor aid should be given to anyone.
So yeah, consent is being manufactured at the moment, but I suspect it won’t endure much loss. And I fear for American Jews once that happens because they’re likely to be blamed for the actions of the Israeli government. Especially given how little attention the “not in our name” movement is receiving.
Unless people use nukes, right? Yeah. Maybe you lose everything. That’s the risk, my friend.
Yeah, maybe. I specifically said “better than if USA hadn’t joined”. I’m not convinced that the US bombing made Iran more likely to use a nuke compared to 2 days ago. Nor any other country, for that matter. But hell, as I keep saying, I might be totally wrong about that.
Not an expert by any stretch, but I would say it is infinitely more likely Iran deploys a nuke now. The US has spent a lot of time over the past 80 years doing whatever it wants to countries it doesn’t like that don’t have nukes, and it leaves alone countries that have them.
If I’m Iran, and I don’t have a nuke, I would be on the phone 24/7 with Putin and Kim about using something they have to stage a “test” detonation on Iranian soil.
agreed. it’s just, this is tuesday for us.
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