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Sarcastic bluesky post saying [time traveling back to 1933 to make sure to tell Germans to protest Hitler less vigorously so as not to alienate bougie centrists who want to go to brunch undisturbed, thus preventing the rise of fascism]

  • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
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    1 day ago

    Uh… No? There was no two-party system in Weimar Germany what are you even talking about? Hitler came to power because conservatives and centrists prefered him over the left. Like, it was Hindenburg who appointed Hitler as chancellor.

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      22 hours ago

      The KPD under Thälmann’s leadership regarded the Social Democratic Party (SPD) as an adversary and the party adopted the position that the social democrats were “social fascists”.

      Thälmann’s KPD thus fought the SPD as their main political enemy, acting according to the Comintern policy, which declared social democrats to be “social fascists”. This made it difficult for the two leftist parties to work together against the emergence of Adolf Hitler. The KPD under Thälmann declared that “fighting fascism means fighting the SPD just as much as it means fighting Hitler and the parties of Brüning.” Thälmann declared in December 1931 that “some Nazi trees must not be allowed to overshadow a forest” of social democrats.

      The left preferred Hitler over the liberals. At least they got to feel smug as they were shot, knowing they never voted for anything less that perfection.

      • Aqarius@lemmy.world
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        16 hours ago

        Yeah, it’s not like the SPD would ever send death squads against the left, right?

        …right?

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          13 hours ago

          I really hope not, but maybe you may know more than I about the long boycott of liberals by the Communists who saw liberals as worse than Hitler.

          Fuck, the liberals must have been actively sending communists, LBTQ+ people, Travellers, Poles, and Jews to death camps, just like Adolf did. Surely the Communists wouldn’t miss the forest for the trees when they refused to work with the liberals, Right???

          Right…?

          Right…?

          Not voting for a fucking liberal compared to the fascist running worked out in their favor during the 1930s, right…?

          • NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world
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            54 minutes ago

            Holy shit. So, you just read the first chapter of any history lesson and just assume that’s all there is to the story? This is like something someone would write as a comedy bit. Are you just fucking with us?

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              11 hours ago

              Yeah. You got me, the KPD and the SDP never refused to work together. It’s all just a joke, and there are certainly no parallels to the modern day! (Please don’t read a book that says otherwise)

              Congrats on your cutting sense of satire, here I was thinking I was just a silly goose helplessly watching history repeat yet a-fucking-gain, the left ripping eachother apart while literal fascists take power.

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            13 hours ago

            …Wait, you genuinely don’t know why the SPD was so hated by the KPD? Like, you’re not being obtuse rethorically, you actually don’t know?

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              What, the not-literal-Hitler groups didn’t get along??? Holy shit they actually tried to tear eachother to shreds for electoral gain instead of focusing on the dude ready to literally planning to shoot them both in the head??? Noooo!!! Surely politicians would never hammer wedges! This could never happen again!

              Wow wow wow wowser. I really hope the SDP was sending homosexuals, liberals, communists, jews, minorities, etc, to camps, or the Communists would be utter fucking morons for literally equating the Social Democrats with Nazism. As they literally did.

              Fuck me, people who don’t know history are condemned to repeat it, while people who do know history are condemned to watch everyone else repeat it. Get me off this ride.

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                10 hours ago

                Ahahah, holy shit, you genuinely have no idea!?! Good God, this explains so much…

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                11 hours ago

                I think you need to work on recognizing when you’re in over your head.

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                  10 hours ago

                  Yeah, let me work on not expressing anything that I expect to be ideologically incorrect in a given space. Does leftymemes not like my criticism of leftists who enabled Hitler? Oh no, how will I survive the negative feedback

                  Does leftymemes not like my criticism of leftists who enabled Hitler? Oh no, how will I survive the negative feedback

                  Downvote the fuck away, the only thing I fear is a fascist taking advantage of division and taking power, ready to put us both in a camp just for commenting here. Surely that could never happen, right?

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                    5 hours ago

                    I’m not saying it to be catty, I don’t really have a dog in this fight. I know very little about early 20th century European politics, and even to me it is obvious who in this conversation has read books on the topic, and who’s maybe read a wikipedia page if anything. I honestly believe your life (and that of those around you) would improve if you worked on being more self-critical. You’re coming off as the guy in the typical mansplain story where a guy at a party explains to the author of a book that she’s misinterpteting her own book.

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            12 hours ago

            The ignorance of history is strong with this one.

            liberals

            Who do you call liberals? That term wasn’t present back then and there was no party where that term would apply.

            And the communists were all for killing “capitalist jews”. Here’s a quote from Ruth Fischer when she was leader of the KPD:

            „Tretet die Juden-Kapitalisten nieder, hängt sie an die Laterne, zertrampelt sie“

            “Kick the Jew-Capitalists down, hang them from the lanterns, trample them”

            None of the parties back then map one-to-one to modern parties, and applying our current understanding and sensibilities to the political system in Germany back then without any kind of understanding just directly leads to misinterpretation.

            Especially if you don’t understand the political system of the Weimar Republic and just view that through the lens of a two-party system.