• IHeartBadCode@kbin.social
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      1 year ago

      You know there were a lot of folks who happened to be in New York City on September 11th, 2001, who happened to get the business end of some retaliation for the shitty things our country did during the Cold War. More so, a lot of them (if not all of them) distinctly didn’t have any direct connection to the thing that was being retaliated for.

      So do we get to take the innocent card from those folks who died that day? No? So curious as to the special circumstances that applies to the folks who are tired of Hamas’ shit in the Gaza Strip but can’t leave because Israel won’t let them and they can’t get rid of Hamas because they’ll just kill them. What’s the special case that means those people who are tired of this conflict don’t matter or aren’t worthy of being called oppressed?

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      And thus the circle is complete and peace unattainable.

      You should perhaps remember that a few, very few, had a part in the terrorist attack and the terrorists have claimed to have done the crime for the exact same grievance in the other direction. If you pay attention you may discover that punishing those involved shall offend no one, where as blowing the fuck out of innocent People’s homes in no way helps and is assured to get lots of condemnation.

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        Peace was never the goal to begin with. Violence begets violence. If they really wanted peace they should have negotiated and used politics and all kinds of different ways than killing people.

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          Yes, Israel would have had they wanted peace and security. Hamas, as a terrorist organization, has no such ability even if there were will to do so. Powers that Be want this on both sides.

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            For context, Israel never wanted a Palestinian state to appear. So the Mossad and Netanyahu helped weaken the left secular PLO and funded Hamas.

            What Israel faced is funnily enough, their own 911. Its blowback, literally their own fault.