I have a few: Star Wars, Star Trek, MCU.
star wars, for sure. at this point they’re just digging through the garbage for any scrap of lore they can turn into another streaming series. it’s less ‘new content’ and more ‘extended universe, but legally distinct.’
Saw
Unfortunately, the movie that tried to end it, Saw 3D, sucked.
If I don’t like something, I just don’t watch it. It doesn’t bother me if others enjoy it.
That’s fine for drama and written TV. But nah, reality TV ruined the world.
The Real World and Cribs on MTV led to Big Brother and Survivor - which as well as popularizing the format and leading to endless trash, led to The Apprentice, which revived Donald Trump’s image and brand and convinced millions of really dumb people that he’d make a good president.
In the good parallel timelines, the execs that suggested reality TV were laughed at and it never came up again. MTV still plays great music videos all day, the History channel actually talks about history, and barely anyone outside of the US knows the name ‘Kardashian’ or ‘Donald Trump’.
The problem is that reality TV is inevitable. People, generally speaking, like to know what other people are doing. Or like to see other people react to things.
The first “reality TV” program was Candid Camera, which technically got its start as “Candid Microphone”, all in the late 1940s. Of course things evolved from there into our current “reality TV” situation.
The real problem is that the line between “entertainment” and “reality” has gotten blurrier and blurrier. When we watch Godzilla we know that’s just entertainment, we know a giant lizard creature isn’t walking down the street.
It’s also funny that you mention MTV because realistically MTV should have died out years ago. In the same way that video killed the radio star, the Internet killed the video star. Why would I turn on the TV and hope the video I wanted to watch was on, when I could just go on the Internet and see it now. Of course MTV the television station wants to keep making money, so they pivoted hard into reality TV.
When we watch Godzilla we know that’s just entertainment, we know a giant lizard creature isn’t walking down the street.
Wait, what?
You need to learn from the IWC. No one hates wresting more than wrestling fans
I would like to know the demographics of the people who still watch the Simpsons. They are out there. There are many of them.
Haven’t watched it many years, went and found one of the tree house of horrors the other day because someone recommended it. It was alright
And there was one with a bear
I genuinely think that some people hit a certain age and then simply lose the will to explore new things. The amount of absolute garbage reboots and sequels that my parents watch just because they liked the original thing is far too many. But it’s certainly not just them. I know people younger than me that will just always listen to new albums of artists they used to enjoy even if it’s hot garbage and talk about it like it’s pretty good. I’m certainly not an authority on what people can enjoy, but I can absolutely be disappointed in people that reach this point where familiar=good.
Nostalgia is a powerful ‘drug’.
I always have to pop up in these threads because I’m out there, and I’m not alone. I’ve been watching The Simpsons, more or less, non-stop since it first started airing.
When I was younger it played twice a day during the week with a new episode every Sunday. So when it comes to the earlier seasons, the ten or so seasons often viewed as the golden era, I’ve seen those dozens of times.
In the 2000s watching TV at a regularly scheduled time wasn’t as much of a priority and the availability of videos on the Internet began to increase, so I usually watched The Simpsons that way. When the film came out in 2007 I was there opening day.
As streaming services became popular in the 2010s I started to watch The Simpsons there instead. Although these streaming services rarely had a backlog, just the current season, but I had them all collected over the years.
In the late 2010s my roommates and I decided to watch every episode of The Simpsons but not in release order. We would just pick a random season and episode and watch a few episodes a week over the course of two years.
Now in the 2020s we sometimes get together to watch, sometimes watch solo. I’m personally much more strict about watching every week, they usually watch in short bursts and I don’t mind rewatching recent episodes.
But… Is it good? Yeah mostly. Not every episode is great.
The episode that aired this past Sunday isn’t anything special, a few funny moments but Albert Brooks who voiced Hank Scorpio and Russ Cargill (from the movie) voiced a new character and that was fun.
The Treehouse of Horror from two Sunday’s ago was much better, so if you want a recent episode then watch that.
No it isn’t ever going to be as great as the golden age of The Simpsons, but it’s still fun to watch and I still laugh, so that’s a win to me.
I loved the simpsons but have not seen an episode in maybe a decade or more.
My kids are mainlining it most days (when they’re allowed TV). They’re pre-teens and they love it. I don’t mind so much, basically because nostalgia - and at least it’s not Teen Titans Go, which was so fast it gave me a headache
For shame for you to say that Star Trek has run on too long.
We need messages about cooperating to create a classless, moneyless society of benevolent people now more than ever.
A what?!?!?
Please tell that to CBS. (or who ever the hell runs these hellscape conglomerates these days and owns ST)
Paramount these days innit?
SNW is, like, almost there…
Except they have so many screwups with writing it’s not even funny. Like the captain freaking praying in s02e01… Yeaahhh, Starfleet is definitely known for their faith in god and not humanity…
Yeah nah. A future that accepts all doesn’t mean “atheists only”
There are plenty of religious people in ST. The point is humanity, and especially Starfleet, are secular and logical almost to a fault. It’d be a cold day in hell when a captain goes, “Oh jeeze, oh no, I don’t know what I’m doing! Please Sky Daddy, help mee~”
There’s even a freaking episode in TOS where Kirk directly denounces Gods as a whole, even while he’s literally staring at someone with god-like powers. It’s even a repeating theme in other ways through the series.
It is wholly anachronistic to have a captain defer to religious faith. They explicitly say humanity has moved past the need in all of the first five series.
Maybe Archer has some kind of religious faith-based statement I’m forgetting, but he’s set in early Trek times, and it does not remove the fact that EVERY OTHER series before ST was sold explicitly states humans do not believe in gods for worship. Picard even basically tells Q to fuck off and Q literally has powers beyond what “God” is ever described as having.
There’s even a freaking episode in TOS where Kirk directly denounces Gods as a whole, even while he’s literally staring at someone with god-like powers.
You mean the bit in who mourns for adonais where he says “we have no need for gods we find the one sufficient”? Really? Might wanna rethink that argument. Especially since canonically there’s a freakin’ chapel on the enterprise AND religious officers kneeling to pray. Even in DS9 Kasidy says her mother would want her to be married by a minister.
And Pike does not defer to religious faith, he faces a crisis outside of his control and outside of his role as an officer and throws a quick prayer. Oh no. The horror.
Religion has lost its stranglehold of control, but personal faith most certainly endures through all trek. You might wanna check some of your biases 'cos its making you logic fault.
You’re really reaching at straws when you equivocate a captain admitting humans have believed in one god vs a captain making a religious appeal to God.
Starfleet doesn’t condemn religion, but again, that DOES NOT mean they endorse it. You religious buffoons always utterly fail to understand what kind of humanity is portrayed.
Maybe, but I feel like the lore has become too large for the property and a reboot would be beneficial for the series.
How many reboots do you need?
Just one made by someone who understands the franchise.
And as far as I recall, there is only one reboot in Star Trek history, it just shouldn’t have been made by JJ Abrams.
Feel similar for Star Wars. I gave the sequels a few shots but ultimately don’t really care about them. However, the transition era between the Republic and the Galactic Empire echoes what is happening in the US this second.
I was (re)watching Clone Wars around the start of the year while making plans with my partner to leave our friends and flee the country. The way the Jedi Council treated Ahsoka towards the end while ushering in an era of fascism hit especially hard this time around.
They did her so wrong and then tried to say it was her final test. Such a cop out! Surely with all your sense of the Force you should have known she was innocent. But they didn’t see a Sith Lord right under their noses, either…
That the Jedi Council is incredibly hubristic and far less aligned with the light side than they think is a major theme of the prequel era.
Hell, even Star Trek’s hope for the future would do all of us a bit of good right now.
Just remember in ST humanity went through WWIII, a nuclear war before all the nice stuff.
And apparently India los so the eugenics wars because we have like a billion people and more a single Indian in star fleet in the first 50 years
Oh, believe me, that is something that has been on my mind recently…
In Star Trek, humanity evolved to become better because it had to learn the hard lessons of the past.
Sadly, in reality and today, I’m not so sure those “hard lessons” would lead to any betterment of humanity. World War III could end, and it would be like that alternative episode of enterprise, where is Zephryn Cochrane shot the Vulcan visitors in the face with a shot shotgun.
I’m terrified that we live in the mirror universe
we live in the mirror universe
A surprising amount of people spring beards, nowadays. So there might be something in your observation.
those are franchises older than tv, not only streaming, so i doubt it’ll stop, The Walking Dead on the other hand… also they’re rebooting Breaking Bad, soooo there’s that
Source on breaking bad?
I’m not opposed to the idea as a BB fan, I just suspect the producers will do something stupid like cast that twerp from Dune as Jessie Pinkman. Also, no fucking way anyone can portray Walter White better than Bryan Cranston
sorry, it’s Prison Break getting a reboot, I was mistaken
I remember watching Detective Conan in the Mandarin dub as a kid. Don’t remember much of it now. I looked it up recently, and apparantly it has been running since the 1990s? Still ongoing… yea I don’t trust anything that runs for that long, probably quality of the story went downhill if I had to guess. I have no idea how you can run a concept for 2 decades. I was curious about what the ending would be, but it never ends.
Don’t wanna watch something that goes on forever.
In addition to the three you outlined,
- Alien
- Predator
- Terminator
- Peter Pan
- Robin Hood
- DCeU
As a moderator of [email protected], I disagree with the first two. As a fan of both, I FULLY disagree.
You never know when a gem like Prey, but you gotta deal with hot garbage in the meantime. Wanted to love Romulus, watched it, no idea what it was about, don’t remember a single thing, don’t even have a scene in my head.
Yeah, Prey was fantastic, and by itself justifies all the other sequels.
I’m up for a few more mixes of those. Peter Pan vs Aliens and Robin Hood and the Terminator haven’t been fully explored yet.
lol, I mean they did make Winnie the Pooh into a horror movie.
That’s a weird way to describe the Chinese government.
What about Alien vs Predator Vs Terminator?
I’m pretty sure that was a comic, and would have been a film if not for a rights issue
Why stop there? Why not Alien vs Predator Vs Terminator Vs Peter Pan Vs Robin Hood?
I don’t know what DCeU is.
DC Extended Universe. So the DC films from Man Of Steel to Aquaman And The Lost Kingdom.
The irony in it being mentioned as something that needs to end is that it did end 2 years ago.
The most recent Superman film was a reboot of the franchise.
Spiderman.
Abrahamic religions 👍 we get it you’ve daddy issues don’t take it so serious
How about all religions?
read this in castlevania dracula voice
The pasta people too? They’re pleasant
The Noodley One is always there for you!
rAman.
At least we stuck to one solid trilogy and then stopped. Well, aside from the fanfic.
You mean the Bible is really a trilogy and the book of Mormon is return of the jedi? I’m interested.
The Simpsons. Used to be sensational but isn’t anymore.
It’s gone from losing my interest 20 years ago to flat out unwatchable. I saw an episode from the most recent season and it was neither funny nor interesting to watch. It’s sad that one of the funniest shows ever has been past its prime for so long it’s now an animated corpse of what it once was.
funny thing is Im pretty sure the last one I watched was worth watching but I no longer watch over the air real time and it was not streaming in an easy enough to do fashion so just sorta fell out of watching it.
Omg I read “sensational” as a bad thing is it one of those words now
Only on a sensationalist kind of way.
CSI (and other shows that distort the public’s understanding of the criminal justice system—see the CSI effect).
Do you really want the public to be aware of how shitty the reality is?
I mean here in Germany e.g the reality is that our justice system is overloaded and many criminals can get away because the courts have more cases than they can handle.
I prefer that the wide public doesn’t know that we could already live in anarchy to some degree…
Good news: CSI: Vegas got cancelled last year.
Copaganda in general can just go away.
One Piece. Never watched it because having to watch a thousand episodes just to catch up is simply not possible for me.
I started One Piece about 3 years ago and have read all the manga and just recently caught up on the anime.
Some of the things I really enjoy about it:
The story progression ramps up nicely. Nobody is that OP from the get-go, and the stakes and power levels have increased steadily as the story goes on. There is definitely plot armor, but it’s not like every bad guy is on the same level as the previous one.
There is great representation. There are people of different races. There are gay-coded, trans, and gender fluid characters, there are young and old people. And none of them are really played for laughs for those traits. All character types have heros, villians, comic relief, and serious characters. And none of the characters with real screen/page time are flat and one dimensional. This along with the power scaling, really makes the adventure feel important and like a fleshed out and lived in world that you are part of. I can only imagine this is even moreso true for people that have been fans since the late 90s.
At almost 1200 chapters, I feel like I understand this fictional world and how it works. There are macguffins and such, but nothing that feels out of place. Characters still behave how you would expect them to behave and the creator doesn’t just pull stuff out of nowhere. There is still great continuity with the earliest things that happened in the story. There are many familiar characters, but more still come and go, but not before becoming necessary parts of the full tale. It’s not like Star Wars where it feels there’s about 2 dozen characters with names in the whole universe.
And the last thing I’ll say is in spite of all this, it still does stuff just for laughs regularly. It knows it’s a story primarily for young boys, and despite being one of the best loved anime/manga ever, it doesn’t take itself all that seriously. It’s a damn fun time to read and watch almost every bit of it with few exceptions. The stuff coming out now is as good or better as it’s ever been.
Like anything else, it won’t be for ever single person out there, so if you don’t like it, you don’t like it. I saw a few random episodes on Toonami in the 90s and was WTF is this random stuff then. It is a weird thing to dive into the middle of, and a lot of it is outright silly. But I had people at work keep telling me I’d like it, I finally gave in, and I was hooked from the first chapter.
I tried it after seeing the pirate flag thing being used in Nepal Gen Z Protests and I thought it must be a cool story if its so popular, so I tried watching it… and I got bored so quickly. I mean, it just feels very weird to me, doesn’t “click” for me, oh well, I guess my brain is just different.
Or ypu know you aren’t the actual target audience for One Piece which is children.
Tbf, Avatar: The Last Airbender was also made for kids, but I quite enjoyed it as a young adult (even though it does have “cringy” moments). I guess One Piece just doesn’t have a “deep” overarching story like a world war, propaganda (talking about the fire nation), and genocide.
TLA is aimed at an older kid than One Piece seems to be.
One Piece actually does have those things.
But I’m still not gonna sit through 1000 episodes for it.
I assure you, One Piece is very much not child friendly later on. The first like 700 episodes build up to a specific story arc (Wano). The current (anime) arc has a major back story of a characters life which includes him begging to be allowed to die as a child.
That and the anime pacing is terrible.
I think flipping the question creates more hot takes. Except for the series with self-contained increments, most “popular” long-running franchises just need to stop. Not necessarily close the franchise completely, but just let one thread end and create a new one.
