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    1 year ago

    Last time I checked nobody in the US got an option to vote for “let’s not be an psychotic, thoroughly evil mass-murdering neocolonialist monstrosity that threatens the entire planet with nukes.”

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      I’m so tired of seeing thread #35738272 of Lemmy not understanding how a liberal democracy works. ‘WHY ARE WE NOT VOTING OUT THE OBVIOUS FASCISTS AND VOTING IN THE SOCIALIST UTOPIA RIGHT NOW, CLEARLY DEMOCRACY IS BROKEN’

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        1 year ago

        liberal democracy works

        It’s very easy to understand (so-called) “liberal” democracy - as long as you understand that there is absolutely nothing democratic about it.

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          Except loads of stuff, like your ability to vote, and for that vote to contribute to deciding who leads the country.

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            1 year ago

            What does the word democracy mean?

            Does it perhaps mean, “rule by the people?”

            Or does it perhaps mean “engage in a rigged spectacle every four years where the majority of people get to choose between two overmoneyed bureaucrats whose allegiance to the status quo has been vetted by corporate interests?”

            “Liberal democracy” is no more democratic than “social darwinism” is socialist - or Darwinist.

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              Yeah but western elections aren’t rigged are they. You get a lot of choice. The two final candidates are just one part of that in the US system. Elsewhere there is much more variety, but the people tend to vote for safe, mainstream moderate candidates (with notable far right exceptions), which is why they consistently govern Europe and North America. Sadly, the world isn’t just confused populist leftists. Everyone does actually just want what they’ve all voted for.

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                but the people tend to vote for safe, mainstream moderate candidates

                Really? Is that so? It has nothing to do with the fact that it’s the wealthy that prefers funding these (supposedly) “safe, mainstream moderate candidates” that won’t upset the status quo that benefits said wealthy at the expense of everyone and everything else?

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                  No, not really. Funding is no guarantee of political success, some of the most expensive campaigns in US history have been failures. People don’t want the status quo upset, that’s why it’s the status quo. People are continually voting for it.

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                    some of the most expensive campaigns in US history

                    And what got them into the utterly privileged position of running those expensive campaigns in the first place, hmmm?

                    People don’t want the status quo upset,

                    No, be honest… you don’t want the status quo upset - which is why you are pretending “liberal democracy” can actually be called democratic with a straight face.

                    People are continually voting for it.

                    People are continuing to vote for the narrow set of political options they are allowed to vote for - that is it.