Zen, at least until Ladybird is ready.
See that was my idea till all the assholery happened. But if Ladybird is good and doesn’t require me to pay or see their shitty opinions I think I’d still use it. Cus to this day nothing feels better than a well configured hyprland to me at least
Yeah it’s a similar situation. Sometimes assholes make arguably good software.
Also supposedly the Hyprland community has mellowed out in the last couple years. I can’t confirm, but i hope it’s true
What is ladybird?
A new FOSS browser made by a complete and utter asshole
It makes me sad because initially I was so excited for Ladybird. Finally a new browser engine instead of another shitty chrome fork. Then I find out what and absolute douche canoe the developer was and killed all of my excitement.
tell me more
He moved from Sweden to Silicon Valley, made a bunch of money, but came to hate the “limousine liberal” culture, and felt he was severely discriminated against (in a professional sense) as a hetero white man.
So he left California, got sober, and went full time FOSS developer.
He is an asshole because he now enforces a strict “anti-woke” policy among his contributors, and bans anyone who falls out of line. It’s one thing to ban controversial or political topics, but his interpretation takes things way past any semblance of reason.
A wild one i remember was when he banned someone for using singular they in some documentation, which has been a part of the English language since the Norman period at least. He said it was “political language”.
very in depth, thank you
Yeah I won’t be supporting this browser.
Dang, I was not aware of any of this. A quick search pulls up a bunch of stuff. I’ll look more into it for sure, but come on, can’t we just have nice things?
Yeah me too. Didn’t know. Frustrated. I was hopeful that ladybird was going to save us.
In fairness, the lemmy lead dev also has some… very strongly held ideological views incompatible with my own… yet here we are.
I think there is a difference between having strong views and enforcing them on others, but also context is important.Also not all extreme views are equally harmful/harmless.
I’ve also heard the Lemmy dev has some bad takes (to perhaps put it mildly) but i’ve found the community to be mostly quite civil
Firefox
If I need a Chrome based browser, such as for Keychron Assistant, I use Helium.
Wait, Keychron Assistant works on Chromium? Are you on Linux? Big if true, I thought it just didn’t work on Linux period.
It works in Helium and Edge, the two Chromium browsers I have used for such purposes. All my other browser usage is through Firefox.
I did find THIS tutorial to get Keychron to work in Linux.
Ah man, that’s awesome! Thanks for randomly mentioning this, you just made my keyboard experience 100% better.
Dude thank you! I’ve had a hell of a time with my new Keychron keyboard and Linux.
Librewolf
Librewolf or Mullvad on desktop, Firefox on mobile. Downloaded Ecosia on mobile to try the search engine, so I’m trying out their browser too.
waterfox on debian, firefox on phone.
not sure if librewolf would be better on linux , open to convincing
I tried Librewolf for a while before switching to Waterfox. Librewolf has more built-in privacy features, but unfortunately it’s just enough to make web browsing a little inconvenient. For example, Librewolf doesn’t accurately tell a website what your timezone is, so the opening/closing hours on a store’s website will sometimes be inaccurate.
Desktop: Librewolf, Firefox, Ungoogled Chromium
Mobile: Ironfox, Vanadium, Chromium
I use many, usually Firefox.
Firefox
Zen on the desktop, Firefox on mobile. Zen has quickly surpassed what I thought it would be capable of, and it keeps adding awesome UI bangers that I wish Firefox would have though of decades ago.
Firefox, begrudgingly.
It’s the best browser from a performance standpoint, and has the features i want, but it’s still a bit of a resource hog. It’s just that everything else is worse.
Mullvad on desktop rn
Daily driving Mullvad Browser now, it’s Firefox based and has strong anti-fingerprinting and privacy defaults - it does break some sites though and is missing some QoL features but that’s the price you pay.
What results do you get on a fingerprint testing site like the eff one: https://coveryourtracks.eff.org/
LibreWolf says I have “strong” protection but it also says I’m unique which I don’t understand. Like isn’t the objective to not be unique ? Or does it mean something is being randomised so I’m unique every time?
Mullvad Browser:
Your browser has a non-unique fingerprint
Within our dataset of several hundred thousand visitors tested in the past 45 days, only one in 1041.72 browsers have the same fingerprint as yours.
For comparison if I test in Firefox (configured as I was previously using) I get:
Your browser has a unique fingerprint
Your browser fingerprint appears to be unique among the 304,204 tested in the past 45 days.
“Strong” protection means that your browser is configured to protect against tracking, both come back as strong here, but as far as I can tell that doesn’t take into account tracking through fingerprinting. You’re right, you don’t want a unique fingerprint.
When you customise and add extensions to your browser, you add to its fingerprint so even privacy extensions can be counterproductive. The way Mullvad Browser works is that because it comes ready configured for privacy with various privacy extensions (including UBo) installed by default you don’t have to make changes. While this doesn’t give you a “common” fingerprint exactly (hence “only one in 1041.72 browsers”), it makes you look like all the other Mullvad Browsers so there’s safety in numbers. There are a few more nuances to it than that but that’s basically the idea, and it’s a balancing act, you could be less unique than that but you would need to make other compromises.
The catch is that you shouldn’t try to configure Mullvad Browser yourself since that negates the benefit; you have to be able to live with the browser as it is out of the box which may mean sacrificing some of your favourite extensions.
So, uh… I think you’re confidently incorrect on pretty much all of that.
When your browser requests a web page it doesn’t report what extensions you have installed. It does report plugins but those are not extensions. My report says about 66% of browsers have the same plugins as me.
Ad blockers are a special case. Your browser doesn’t tell the server you have Ubo installed but the server can detect an ad blocker if you’re not requesting additional advertising related resources.
Most of the other user end configurations aren’t really going to effect your fingerprint either.
It turns out that what I said earlier about intentional randomisation is correct. Firefox Resist Fingerprinting (RFP) which is enabled by LibreWolf randomises canvas results, so you’re going to be unique for each fingerprinting attempt. That’s just as good as being common.
In my own case, my biggest weakness is the fonts I have installed as reported by my browser. I might look into that.
Firefox on desktop with every non scummy blocker I can have on it.
Samsung internet on my Zenfone with every non scummy blocker I can have on it.
I use Mullvad on my PC and Brave on my phone and tablet. (Please, don’t hurt me fellow Lemmings)
