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    This is simply a rehash/summary of an original article on 404media. Beyond that, you would have to be living under a rock to think that Plex was interested in what their users actually wanted. I ran a Plex server for years until I got fed up with trying to turn off some new self serving misfeature with every new update. It’s been clear for years that offering a self hosting media server solution is simply a bridgehead for Plex to seek every more revenue opportunities, even for paying victims customers. I moved to and recommend Jellyfin- comparable user experience (minus the crap), use the same library, apps for all your devices, open source and completely self contained.

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    Love how the headline equates the shame of viewing porn with the shame of viewing anime

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      I did Jellyfin right when I got into this as soon as I saw Plex require an external account.

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      I’d love it if it had native apps on popular devices, especially on samsung TV. There are ways to set it up, but it has issues

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      I would love to switch to jellyfin but I can’t get the fuckin thing to work. Same with Emby. Absolutely refuses to find the server.

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          No. I’ve spent hours googling my problem and trying every solution that popped up. The server is behind a router, and no amount of port forwarding and firewall permissions is getting past it for whatever reason.

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            I had a similar issue in my home where I ran a nighthawk router at the back of my house connected to the ATT router/modem at the front of the house. I let them run as separate networks for a long time, and that prevented anything not connected to the same router as the jellyfin server from seeing it.

            I recently got my act together and switched the router to “access point mode” and the house is all 1 network now. The jellyfin server is available on everything in the house as well. After the change, I felt silly I had it the other way for years because it sure helps many of the other wifi objects in my home as well.

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              There are a few things plugged in to that router that I’ve never had an issue accessing, but they just need basic Internet access as far as I understand

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            Are you on apartment internet by chance? You’ve probably got a double NAT. In which case you’ll need a server, outside the network, that can make a tunnel to your server.

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      Yeah I’ve been running Jellyfin for a year now and it’s amazing. The plugins automatically find metadata, cover art, and subtitles for me as soon as I upload them to my nas.

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    Lol, I just finished building my JellyFin server last weekend too. Bye Plex!

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      I have both currently. Only reason I’ve kept Plex around is bc the jellyfin Roku and android apps need a bit of polish.

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        I’m one of the programmers of the Jellyfin Roku client. What are some of the things you’re seeing that need polish? We’re always looking for what to work on next to make it better for users.

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      Doesn’t Plex require you to buy their premium service in order to use it on mobile devices?

      I remember setting up my Plex server and was shocked that I had to pay to view my own media.

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        devs have to eat too, open source software (when fully free) is sometimes built as a hobby like Jellyfin, or as a portfolio project, or worst case scenario as a bait and switch to paid (sometimes it’s death sentence). Then there are sponsored projects like Vulkan, or others that live off of donations like Mozilla.

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        I always see this but I used Plex on my iPhone for months before I bought the Plex pass. I did buy the Plex app way back when and maybe that’s why but I’m also using a new Plex account so I don’t see how’d they be tied together.

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          I’m not sure if it is exactly the same on Iphone. But on Android you can choose to either pay for the app( a one time payment) or have Plex pass. Either way lets you watch on the mobile app.

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          Buying the premium app and Plex pass are different things. You need to buy the app to be able to watch on mobile via the app.

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    I’ve been seeing this story do the rounds and I feel like we’re burying the lede here.

    Who the hell is watching porn over Plex? That is somehow simultaneously the most uninformed and the most complicated way to access porn.

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    I’ll admit this feature should have definitely been opt-in. But when the update came out there was a big pop-up on your screen when you logged in. Where you just turned all of this off and hit save. It is super easy to disable.

    The sharing what I watch with friends part is dumb. But it is pretty cool how you can recommend stuff to friends.

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      I got the pop up. I disabled it. But I just got an email from Plex telling me everything my family member watched in the last week. This is complete shit!!

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          Which is still an issue. “Opting-out” means opting-out not halfway opting-in.

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            It’s not perfect, but at least you’re only seeing others’ activity.

            There’s hopefully a “discover” email notification you can disable. I haven’t been bothered enough to check yet. Worst case, it could be filtered out pretty easily.

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          I thought I was opting out of my account and my server. But nope, Plex is scraping up everything that’s on my server and shipping it in an email to other people including me.

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      I followed the instructions and opted out yet I’m still seeing what my users watched along with getting emails listing the same. I’m certain none of my users are interested in this and likely skipped through the pop-up without reading/comprehending it.

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        I think that as the server owner it’s a given that you’ll be able to see what people watch.

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          Having the ability to see it versus having it pushed in your face in the app and in weekly emails are two completely separate things.

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      Yeah, considering how in-your-face this popup was, I can’t really take someone seriously when they just say that it was “opt-out”…

      Like, I get it on a technicality. But c’mon.

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    If you’re using Plex for porn and also adding friends on it, what were you thinking in the first place? Like, it was so obvious something like this was going to happen, and that’s besides the already existant risk of accidentally sharing the wrong library with your friend.

    It’s a cool feature, it obviously would have been better if it filtered by age rating or adult film by default to begin with but I really see this as an overreaction.

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      Enshittification is the norm for all for profit endeavours. Exceptions to this are exceedingly rare and usually just a matter of time rather than truly being an exception.

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      They’ve raised over $80 million. Investor money is a poison, and the only antidote is enshittification.

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        Well thats just short sighted. Theres barely a reason for the average consumer to even think about plex let alone sell em on anything. Maybe if they tried to resurrect DVD sales or become the bandcamp of movies they would have a plan. But just a media organizer? Theres no way those investors are getting that 80mil back.

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          Especially given the demographic of Plex users. The likelihood of them jumping ship is much higher than regular streaming services.

          Ultimately, VLC stream still exists for people to go back to

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      So how exactly is this enshitiffication?

      It’s a stupid feature that’s for sure, but you’ve gotta stop calling everything enshitiffication mate

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        ?

        It’s a degradation in functionality masquerading as an improvement. And as for labelling everything ‘shit’, have you seen my comment history. This is the first time I have used this term on any platform. Smh

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          It’s not really degrading functionality there is it. It’s a feature that no one wants and is annoying and badly thought out but you can turn it off but they haven’t disabled any functionality to add this feature

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            I feel that for a platform that is commonly used for pirated content, having telemetry that shows exactly what content people have is probably bad.

            Next they’ll start selling that info to the MPAA so they can sue individual users.

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              They will never sue users, you can not prove the user doesn’t own the corresponding Blueray, etc.

              That, and it’d completely destroy the company, like in an instant, gone.

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            It’s a feature that no one wants and is annoying and badly thought out but you can turn it off but they haven’t disabled any functionality to add this feature

            So it’s just more unnecessary bloat

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          Re: using it the first time - sorry, people just tend to use it when not applicable.

          It’s not a degradation in functionality, it’s a dumbass move, but I’m sure they didn’t intend to worsen anything.

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    I’m a little shocked at how difficult it seems to be to find instructions on how to disable this feature. Pretty sure I got it, but it wasn’t a feature called discover together but a series of sharing options.

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      The fact that you’re only “pretty sure” and not “entirely sure” is pretty shitty on plex in itself.

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          Plex has been kind of bad for a while though in terms of UI being just hard to use.

          I don’t actually think it’s even intentional I think it’s just they don’t have anybody on staff who really knows what they’re doing.

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            Yea, it’s what all my people use though so I’m a little stuck with it. It’s also dead simple to set up and I don’t feel like learning jellyfin right now.

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    Would love to just pay someone to access their jellyfin server. Does something like this exist?

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      Yes. Youll have to find one that works for your region though (local servers will have better latency and b/w)

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        Is there a place to browse options? A lemmy community you recommend perhaps?

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          Just FYI, as soon as money starts changing hands, it can open you up to a whole extra level of legal damages for piracy, assuming the content isn’t licensed for distribution. Ripping your own DVDs for yourself is one thing, but selling access to the copies via a media server is way less of a gray area, and they can point to real numbers as damages.

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            Yeah it’s definitely way past the line where it becomes worthwhile to go after you and there’s even a money trail somewhere to trace it back. IMO definitely not worth any potential legal headaches to buy or sell a service like this.

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      And how to give access without setting yourself up to have the FBI raid your house or get sued to oblivion