• Cethin@lemmy.zip
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    20 hours ago

    Again, what do you want them to do? Should Russia be allowed to just have it? Russia is literally bombing civilian housing, which Ukraine isn’t doing. They’re the invader. Letting them have their way supports war crimes because it shows they are beneficial.

    If Nazi Germany was stopped when they first started invading other nations, we probably wouldn’t have had WWII. The same can be said here. Hell, they should have been stopped after the first invasion of Crimea, or even Chechnya, or maybe Georgia, especially after the genocide.

    I’m against war crimes. That’s why I’m against nations invading other sovereign states. I hope one day you’ll stop justyfing them by siding with invaders while your countrymen are slaughtered. Ukraine stopping fighting back doesn’t stop war crimes. It only gives Russia what they want and then they’ll continue to commit war crimes somewhere else (assuming they don’t commit another genocide right there too). If you’re against war crimes, you stand against invaders.

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      17 hours ago

      Again, what do you want them to do? Should Russia be allowed to just have it?

      That’s absolutely his stance. He feels like Russia should own and occupy Ukraine.

      And he says we’re filled with propaganda.

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      13 hours ago

      Should Russia be allowed to just have it?

      You are not in the position of deciding it. You’re just arguing on the internet.

      If you’re against war crimes, you stand against invaders.

      If you are against war crimes, you don’t argue about when they are justified, but most importantly you do not commit them. Simple as that.

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        7 hours ago

        You are not in the position of deciding it. You’re just arguing on the internet.

        No shit dude. You’re telling me not to do this. Give me your reason. Do you just not want to tell me what you want for some reason? You’re saying that I must stop voicing my support for the defenders of an invasion, and you must have a reason for that.

        If you are against war crimes, you don’t argue about when they are justified, but most importantly you do not commit them. Simple as that.

        Yeah, and Ukraine isn’t really committing many, if any. It’s inevitable that some war crime adjacent things happen in any war, but most of what makes it a crime is intent. For example, if a drone is shot down or jammed and crashes into civilian infrastructure, that’s not a war crime because it wasn’t intentional. Russia is literally sending drones to bomb apartments in Ukraine. That’s a war crime.

        I want Ukraine to defeat Russia to show that committing war crimes and invading other nations is not beneficial. I want pieces of shit like you, who use their friends deaths as a cudgel to argue against Ukraine support to suffer. Your friends probably didn’t intend to die, assuming they’re real, so you can argue in favor of supporting daddy Putin’s legacy building. They probably didn’t want to be fodder for some dying weak old man’s prestige. This is what you make of them though. That’s how much you value them. If you really cared about them you’d try to stop the invaders so people can stop dying for the sake of a man who doesn’t care if you exist.

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          7 hours ago

          I want Ukraine to defeat Russia

          the war for you is really a football match. Think about it

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            52 minutes ago

            You keep saying that because you can’t justify your stance, because it’s fucked up. It’s as much a football match for me as the outcome of WWII is. The Nazis were disgusting and evil, and them winning would have been a horrible outcome for the entire world. Russia has already proven they’ll continue to attack other nations if they can, and they’ve also proven they’re willing to commit genocides. Putin needs to be stopped.