• Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Thats not the way it will work. They will give discounts to the rich and charge the poor more. This is essentially what dollar general is. A added cost for being poor.

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      What an embarrassing existence. A society that COULD feed everyone in it decides to optimize the wealth of a tiny few and let millions starve to do it. What stupid stupid animals we are.

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        We’re not stupid animals, there are plenty of historical examples of societies allocating resources based on need rather than economic capability. We’re just living under the wrong system, and we need to evolve past that system towards something with actual democracy, where the people can decide democratically how the economy works and how the resources are allocated, where the workers aren’t under the orders of a dictatorial power structure 8 hours a day 5 days a week, but instead they collectively make the decisions and take the profits from the companies they own collectively.

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            We didn’t choose the system. I wasn’t handed a ballot when I was born, were you? Capitalism developed in specific historic and material conditions not by popular choice but by the logical consequences of those conditions.

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      2 months ago

      Saw an interview with a guy (on Bloomberg actually) who explained that “ability to pay” and “willingness to pay” are two different things and that the pricing system doesn’t target people who have a lot of money (“ability to pay”) but rather people who have fewer options.

      Like, if the app knows that you don’t have a car and this is the only grocery store you can walk to, you will pay a higher price.

    • Test_Tickles@lemmynsfw.com
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      2 months ago

      While the sarcasm in your comment is painfully obvious, certain people, like the average fox news host (aka psychopaths), will read it and see the upvotes and think that we are up voting because we agree. We don’t, we are up voting their dark humor.
      Also, fuck you fox news. Fuck you very much.

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        I actually do worry about this. Im such a sarcastic person and I can’t keep from doing it on the web but I wonder if every comment is going to birth a new cult. And this comment I want to be clear is 100% not sarcastic, I truly feel this way. nowadays is nuts.

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          Ok, look… I know it’s not technically a rule, but we’re going to need you to just start putting “/s” at the end of all your comments. Just add it as a signature line so it shows up on everything, just to be safe. You’ll just have to consider it like some kind of magic charm or ward to prevent something like The_Donald from being conjured up.

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    I am going to go to Kroger, speak with the manager, and scream loud enough while complaining for the entire store to hear, and never return the first time this happens.

    I’m lucky enough to have options. A lot of small towns aren’t. This idea needs to die fast, and it won’t unless we are loud and borderline violent in pushing back against it. Tank their sales and reputations as quickly as possible.

    Edit: because people think I hate th manager, changed wording. And yea, it sucks that I can’t scream directly at the CEO, but if you’ve silent, this gets implemented with no friction at all, and they declare it a success.

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      The barely above minimum wage manager doesn’t make these decisions and all you gain from screaming at him is bringing down the mix of everyone around you.

      The best way to handle this is to not shop at Kroger. Not when they start doing it. Now. Kroger won’t get my money until they publicly admit this is a bad move and walk it back before it happens.

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        I think the implication of screaming is more to let the whole store know just how exactly fucked this idea is, to get everyone talking about it. Yea the manager doesn’t make the decisions but if he hears no push back, the rich fucks at the top sure don’t.

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    For the love of anything holy. Then they’ll require to install a shitty app to shop at the grocery store in the first place. No, thank you

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      I shop at Jewel (which is currently under threat of being taken over by Kroger) and they’re now doing this thing where there will be, for instance, peaches, under a huge sign showing an incredible deal. Then you look at it and realize that the price isn’t discounted at all unless you install a “Jewel App” and use it to “claim” a “digital coupon.”

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        Two major supermarkets do this in the UK now. I fucking hate it, it should be illegal. I also noticed recently a store with digital price labels. Combine the two and we’re marching towards the news in the post at a breakneck speed.

        Many supermarkets do adjust their prices based on the average income of the location they’re in, so this isn’t really different in some ways.

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    If this happens… You can bet your ass my unemployed relative is going to be the one buying all the groceries with cash.

    No cash? Well it turns out the untaxed gift allowance is $18,000, or $1500/mo, more than enough for all the groceries of a large family.

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      2 months ago

      So they’ll have to price small quantities low and go up from there to prevent TaskRabbits / Craigslisters from running this as a business

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    2 months ago

    This isn’t new. Websites have had higher prices when browsed with a Mac than when browsed with Linux.

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      Plus returning visits. Airlines have been caught charging higher prices to someone who returns later to purchase an airfare that they previously looked at.

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    I’m seriously going to smash these fucking things with my shopping cart if I ever see them. Sorry didn’t see it not sorry.

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    2 months ago

    Demonstrating the inherent contradiction of capitalism in practice.

    Capitalism is allegedly the only fair way to price things, via the “Price Mechanism”. However, capitalists have simultaneously been creaming their pants at the idea of charging specific people or people in specific situations more, because they can get more profit, in service of Profit Maximization.

    I’m sure I’ll get a lecture on how they are not at all mutually exclusive but I don’t care, honestly. It’s either going to price gouge when the customer is perceived to be in more need (low battery pricing for taxi apps) or have a price based on the customer’s ability to pay… at which point why not socialism?

    Essentially, the capitalist will support what is best for themselves and make up reasons why it theoretically might benefit consumers (but not really).

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      When people talk about the benefits of capitalism, what they’re generally really talking about are the benefits of perfect competition.

      The capitalists themselves, of course, absolutely hate perfect competition with the burning wrath of a thousand suns.

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        I think perfect competition is impossible. The incentive is not to compete fairly, it’s to maximize profits and the most effective ways to maximize profits are anticompetitive, exploitative, or both. Anyone arguing for a society built around such a system is either naive or trying to buy more time with false hopes.

        Virtually every condition in the ideal scenario is a barrier for profit, and I don’t think any civilization has managed even a single one of those conditions. There will always be actors looking to take advantage of any loopholes or create unregulated markets.

        It’s just not a system that is sustainable. The incentives are simply wrong and the society built around those incentives can’t maintain a system of perfect conditions even if one were to exist.

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      Because they can pay 10 million to a consulting firm to develop a customer-profiling model that predicts their income based on the most recent purchases with a 10% margin of error.