• volodya_ilich@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    what’s preventing China from just taking ALL of Russia

    The same thing that’s made china not have an overt military conflict for the past half century: they’re not a militaristic, expansionist country. I know that’s inconceivable for bloodthirsty Americans, but really, give it a thought, which country has participated in more overt conflicts in the past half century.

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      The same thing that’s made china not have an overt military conflict for the past half century: they’re not a militaristic, expansionist country.

      Uh…

      The Philippines, Brunei, Malaysia all disagree..

      India disagrees.

      Nepal disagrees.

      Bhutan disagrees.

      I could keep going but my train is almost at my stop. China tries their best to keep their conflicts on the quiet-side to prevent sanctions like the west did to Russia.

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        2 months ago

        Thank you for proving me right by bringing as your utmost evidence BBC (the unbiased source that uses the grey “China filter” on videos) reports that “some countries are purportedly sad because of a map”. Really, very telling that that’s the best you’ve got. In the meanwhile, NATO bombed Yugoslavia and Libya, and the US outright invaded Iraq and Afghanistan to name just a select few.

        You guys are unbelievable.

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      they’re not a militaristic, expansionist country.

      I’m guessing the Dalai Lama doesn’t agree with you on that one.

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            2 months ago

            Please tell me you have a reliable source on the number of Tibetans in Tibet that want independence from China.

            Let’s then compare that to Catalonians in Spain, or to Quebec nationals in Canada, or to indigenous colonies in the US

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              1. I said “the world” and not “China.”

              2. None of those places were conquered within living memory, the thing you said China doesn’t do.

              (Believe it or not, arguing that they like being conquered and colonized doesn’t mean they weren’t conquered and colonized.)

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                (Believe it or not, arguing that they like being conquered and colonized doesn’t mean they weren’t conquered and colonized.)

                “The right of self-determination is only relevant when it’s bad for China :(”

                Tibet was a literal feudal state with absolutist power, where Tibetans worked the land as serfs for their feudal lords as they were legally tied to it. The liberation army liberated the Tibetans from their feudal yoke in a non-colonial way (we can get into the details if you want to).

                None of those places were conquered within living memory, the thing you said China doesn’t do.

                Ok, hopefully we’ll stop hearing the imperialists cry about how much better Tibet was under feudalism in 20 years, when it’s no longer living memory.

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                  2 months ago

                  Again- this was about you claiming China is not expansionist.

                  You can claim the expansionism was justified, you can claim that the people wanted it, you can claim it’s unfair because of “the imperialists,” you can claim any of those things or other things.

                  What you cannot truthfully claim is that a country which literally expanded its borders by a massive amount in living memory by the same government that is currently in power is not expansionist.

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                    2 months ago

                    A people’s liberation event in 50 years is really all you pro-US-imperialists have to point to as for how evil and militaristic china is. You guys are laughable.

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      That is what the Chinese leadership likes to claim. That it’s cultural, and their culture is one of trade and cooperation, not expansion. And I don’t doubt that they are earnest in saying that. I mean they truly believe themselves to be different. But we know that once a power becomes global, i.e. when its interests and investments extend well beyond its borders, its military presence will also expand, and it will engage in conflict to protect said global interests. Whether it’s the US, Russia, or China, the dynamic at a certain level is the same. China is already growing a more formidable army and expanding into the South China Sea. This is only the beginning.