Do you have a criteria for what qualifies as block-worthy offence or are you just doing it when you feel like it?
Bonus question: how long is your block list?
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I’ve never blocked someone. Idk why. Maybe too much action for something that doesn’t make any big difference.
This isn’t meant to judge over people who block others, there could be good reasons like stalking etc.
I don’t block people either because my mom didn’t raise no pussies.
I think I’ve blocked one or two people on lemmy. Only because they like to spam posts all at once and it will fill up an entire page with just their shit.
Outside of that I’ve never blocked anyone, nor do I ever really want to block anyone.
Ah I see, that’s more like a content block. Wouldn’t a filter do the same, I bet they spam to the same topics?
The topics weren’t an issue. The issue is more with Lemmy’s sorting algorithm not being great.
You may want to try out scaled sort if your instance supports it, most of them do these days. Only a very small handful of archaic instances have not updated to 0.19.x yet.
It does actually make a difference. Especially on a small platform like Lemmy. I’d say that around 50% of the time that I see a blocked user make a comment and I log out to read it, it just confirms that blocking them was the right choice.
Man I wish we had a “flag” option as an alternative. I don’t wanna block anyone because sometimes I still wanna read their comments/posts.
I just want to flag them so when I come across them again I can keep in mind that they did a no-no before. You could even use it to categorize (this user is a spammer, this one a troll, etc.)I need that for the opposing reason. Sometimes people write so good comments that I don’t want to block them for the stupid comment they write the next day.
I know that some apps and browser extensions do this, but I really think that it’s important for Lemmy itself to have an existing notes feature as part of the server software and backend, which allows your notes to be saved as part of your account.
Mastodon has this feature and lets you leave notes on users’ profiles. I do this a lot on there. I guess there isn’t any reason why you couldn’t use Mastodon’s version of it if you regularly post to Lemmy communities from Mastodon, but since I and many others are lemmy users, and post + read from here it’s good to have that feature available on this server’s software natively.
Boost lets you tag users so you can figure out who is consistently beint shitty. I think a few other apps also have that functionality.
Some people are just completely deranged, like, pathologically deranged. Those people just annoy me, and I don’t want to get annoyed/angered every time I read their bullshit.
Not tagging NSFW posts
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Only if they’re very annoying and waste everyones time. And annoying bots. I’ve changed instances and now my blocklist is only one bot. Usually when I’m offended, it’s spam. Rarely someone getting personal and yelling at people. I report that and usually the account gets suspended and I don’t need to block anything. I’m not hesitant, though. If someone wastes my time more than once, I don’t see any reason to continue with that. But since I only watch my subscribed communities, I’m not very exposed to those kinds of people. And I don’t care at all if someone disagrees with me or has some mild behavioral issues. I’m used to that and wouldn’t block someone just for that.
In my case, most users I’ve blocked were for shitty behavior. I have zero tolerance for that. If someone speaks to me or others in a way they wouldn’t dare to in real life, I block them instantly. I don’t mind disagreements or different opinions, but I won’t waste time with mean or nasty people.
The second most common reason is shallow, one-sentence replies only meant to fish for upvotes without adding value to the discussion. Jokes are fine, but if you’re just echoing what’s popular for applause, you’re gone. Nothing wrong with that per-se, but I’m more interested in serious conversations.
Lastly, there are petty reasons. For example, overused phrases like ‘fuck around and find out’ will get you blocked too.
You must’ve blocked 200 people by now
I don’t block people because I think it’s important to understand that people have different viewpoints and ways of articulating them
There are other reasons to block as well. Simply just being an asshole is not a viewpoint I think anyone should be paying attention to.
Right. Blocking people for no other reason than “I disagree” or “I don’t like that” turns the place in to an echo chamber. Like, if that’s what you want, fine, but one reason I left Reddit was to get out of the echo chamber.
If you’re a massive tool or a spambot I’ll block you.
My block list is pretty small and most of 'em are advertising spambots I’ve encountered. Only, like 3 of them are dicks.
Mostly just tankies, they irritate the hell outta me.
Furries, gay porn, sports, and posts in languages I don’t understand.
You block other users for mentioning sports?
Posts, not comments. But sure. I can do that.
posts in languages I don’t understand.
Me, in the meantime: “fuck, now I need to know what’s written there!”, followed by machine translation, followed by a bored “…ah.”
(Replace the bored “…ah.” with some genuine laugh when it’s something from szmer.info. I don’t speak Polish but people in that instance have an odd sense of humour, that I enjoy quite a bit.)
Pretty much this plus vegans.
There are loads of vegans that are lovely, reasonable people, but unfortunately they get shadowed by the much less reasonable outspoken ones.
I’m a “carny” btw
I dont block them unless they show themselves as unreasonable and hostile. I typically get fed up reading headlines like meat eaters blah blah kill dont care blah doom methane anti farming pro avocado. when you try to debate anything out, there is zero sense of reasoning beyond their agenda. Those braindeads get blocked. I’m not interested in reading or hearing anything they have to say. The same as anyone who posts futo porn. I dont care if your gay little ass gets turned on by cartoon animals with dicks. I dont want to see that shit.
I’ve blocked a few bots but I would only block an actual person if they’re harassing me. I’d rather downvote or report people that are saying hateful things.
You usually block people for good audience sight-lines and sensible character interactions. It can also communicate relationships non-verbally.
And you want to avoid awkward shuffling as they enter and exit the stage.
Blocking is important in film as well, but less so due to close ups, shot reverse-shoot, and editing.
I think my blocklist is about 1/3 spam, 1/3 hatespeach, blatent disinformation and promoting genocide, and 1/3 untagged nsfw. Its a couple dozen users right now.
On my old account it was hundreds (almost all hate-speech, disinformation, and promoting genocide), but Hexbear has been defederated and I’ve givien up and blocked .ml so I don’t run into much of that anymore.
Ad hominem -> block.
My blocklist is 30~40 users long. [For reference, my blocklist in Reddit reached 400 or so.]
To keep it short, I typically block people who, egregious or consistently:
- show lack of reasoning, even if I agree with the conclusion
- misrepresent what others say
- take things off context to judge them, even if I agree with the judgement
- vomit lots of “hard” certainty on things that they cannot reasonably know (e.g. the others’ emotional states over the internet)
- engage in passive aggressiveness (note that I tolerate some clear hostility, just not pass-aggro)
- show clear signs of sealioning (e.g. “I don’t understand” + misrepresentation of what someone else said)
- tell others shit like “trust me” = “I expect you to be a gullible piece of rubbish”
Note that “egregious or consistently” are key words here. Like, I’m not going out of my way to block someone out of a brainfart; this is not some sort of petty revenge, it’s just removing from my sight people who I believe to not contribute with my overall Lemmy experience. I also don’t take issue when people block me, for whatever reason they might have.
Sealioning is a made up term by those too lazy to explain a concept and looking to antagonise others because they “cannot possibly be unaware of X fact that I care so much about”.
Funnily enough saying someone is sealioning falls within the passive-aggressive behaviour you seem to despise so much.
Sealioning is the discussion equivalent of a DoS (denial of service) attack. In both, the content of the reply is irrelevant; the goal is to flood the person/machine with multiple requests, until they reach a limit and stop dropping the requests altogether.
And while the concept has some problems because it handles some esoteric babble called “intentions” (see: “goal”), it’s still useful when you focus on the behaviour instead.
Funnily enough saying someone is sealioning falls within the passive-aggressive behaviour you seem to despise so much.
Pass-aggro is about tone, not content. You can state something like “you’re sealioning” in a passive aggressive way, or a rude way, or under a bald-on record, so goes on.
Sealioning is the discussion equivalent of a DoS (denial of service) attack. In both, the content of the reply is irrelevant; the goal is to flood the person/machine with multiple requests, until they reach a limit and stop dropping the requests altogether.
Thank you for putting it this way. This clarifies some things for me.
You made me notice a revision error in my own comment (“stop dropping” is supposed to be simply “drop”). I’m glad that the meaning is still retrievable though, due to the analogy.
I wasn’t the one who created the analogy, by the way, but it’s damn useful/didactic. Specially because there’s also a sealioning equivalent of DDoS, far more effective than when done by a single entity.
I knew what you meant. It is damn useful, especially for understanding peoples motives offline too. Saving the analogy to my brain for later use.
- Genocide denial
- Fascism
- Racism
- Bad-faith arguments
- Really really stupid & low effort
- Consistently really really negative
- Vote manipulation
- Spam, CSAM
I’ve banned 1074 accounts from the instance I run, most of them for boring reasons like spam. Usually between 1 and 10 per day.
I don’t block anyone because I do not like to shove other perspectives out of view and pretend they don’t exist. Also I grew up on old internet where having a thick skin was a necessity.
There are other reasons to block people than to hide differing viewpoints.
I understand this, but I think one of the prevailing uses for blocking has sadly become to shove away voices that one wishes not to hear.
If you’re talking about people who do illegal or objectively terrible things, this is a terrible use case. As Lemmy’s block system is really meant only as a feed curation tool. It’s for things that you “don’t wike and don’t wannna to see 👶”. So to use it on people who are actually bad actors is not a good idea, and certainly isn’t a good idea to encourage its use in that manner. After all if everybody ignores these people and nobody reports them then they are allowed to run wild for much longer if not indefinitely. That’s why reporting is encouraged, it helps take care of bad faith users.
I think a lot of people need to get used to the idea that it is partially their responsibility to deal with bad faith users by reporting. On big tech platforms it didn’t make much of a difference because they didn’t care, instance admins here do care though, and many don’t have the legal defenses that those companies have especially when it comes to illegal shit that might be posted by some of these awful depraved individuals. Let them know about it sooner rather than later, report the trolls.
Apologies if I came off as a bit harsh.
Most of the people I’ve blocked haven’t broken any rules. Reporting them would be pointless.
That’s fair, most of the people I’ve dealt with who I thought about blocking usually were, either they were directly harassing or attacking me, were blatantly alt-right trolls attacking other people for their presentation or they were simply being rude and hostile for no reason.
I guess those things might be different on lemm.ee but generally here those things earn people comment or post removal, community bans, and sometimes even site bans (account termination if this is their home server). Same is true for other servers I’m on. Including the Mastodon server I’m a part of.
