Bonus question: how much would a company have to pay you for you to give 100% effort at work?
A thousand dollars a day. I work hard to complete pain & exhaustion and people appreciate the service I provide and they request me and come back for more. And it completely wears me out body mind and soul. Now let’s factor in the cost of living. I feel my labor is worth $1,000 a day. I know that’s not too much to ask because there are plenty of miscreants out in the world who don’t work half as hard as I do but they earn a lot more.
So about $250k a year? That’s not unreasonable at all.
I think what I get is ok, because I adjust my effort to the payment.
I don’t think I could give 100% effort at work, that would burn me out in no time and that’s not worth any money.
One MILLLLLION dollars.
I am struggling with “fair” here. I’m pretty well paid for the public sector, but the private sector would offer a 50%+ increase with a noticable loss of stability. So I don’t know. I do think they should have promoted me years ago though .
I already give 100% effort at work. I make an average of $37.50/hr, waiting tables. I wouldn’t accept less than $35 as a straight wage if I were to forgo tips.
$175k.
$275k to full tilt. It wouldn’t be worth it because I’d quit in a year.
$275k to full tilt. It wouldn’t be worth it because I’d quit in a year.
$275k would set you for life? You’d be able to put up with a year, but not able to handle one more year and double your money?
Also $275k is only about $196k after federal taxes and FICO.
I think they meant the burn out after a year of full tilt.
FICA? FICO is for credit scores.
Thanks for catching my typo. Fixed now.
Np
My work is worth a hell of a lot less than I’m actually paid considering how many irrelevant meetings I have to attend, and probably a solid one million per year would do it. No promises I won’t start slacking as soon as your back is turned and I feel comfortable.
Found the manager
I’m not a manager, just the default Subject Matter Expert that they keep calling up. But I might as well be seeing as what I actually end up doing on a daily basis.
Anybody with a full time job should be able to comfortably afford a home, car and protect their health and future.
The fact that this isn’t the case is caused by unfettered greed.
I knew I’d get a ton of answers like this, that’s why I asked for a dollar amount.
The best I can offer you is an equation since it varies so drastically from region to region.
((Cost of living) * 2.5 + taxes) / 40
I should be able to own a home and raise a family on a single income as an engineer.
Glassdoor says that I should be making 90k or so
What do you make now? 90k sounds low.
$65k. I’m only 30 and in a low cost of living state. But yeah I’m at the low end of what my career makes. I’m shit at selling myself and I’ve struggled to get a leg up professionally so I’ve just wound up at a place that underpays me as I keep looking elsewhere
Finding a new job is the fastest way to increase your salary, and looking for one while you already have a job is a million times easier than when you don’t. Especially in engineering; there’s a huge demand for almost all engineering fields (one exception being software engineers, sorry you guys are kinda saturated right now). I started at 68.5k, changed jobs to 87.5k, and just recently changed again to 105k. All within 2.5 years. Good luck getting that kind of increase with annual salary negotiations at a single company.
Polish up your resume, update your LinkedIn, respond to recruiters (make sure they’re legit, get info from them first BEFORE giving them yours. They can see your LinkedIn profile, that should be enough), and never refuse an interview. At the very least, use interviews as practice on keeping your skills sharp. Interviews can actually be pretty fun if you don’t have a serious interest in the place because there is zero pressure. And when you’re not operating under pressure, that looks like confidence.
Don’t be too eager to take the first offer that comes your way either. Be blunt. “That’s not enough money for me”, “I’ll need a hiring/relocation bonus before I can consider this.”, “That’s a longer commute than I have currently, I’ll need an increase in the offer to make up the cost of gas and the extra time.” And if they don’t play ball, thank them for their time and keep looking. Force the companies to sell themselves to you, not the other way around. You’d be surprised how often a “Sorry, we just can’t go that high” magically turns into “Would you still be interested if we can make that work?” a few days/weeks later when they realize how tiny the candidate pool is.
You are a hot fucking commodity. Let them fight over you.
I actually think I get paid a decent wage at ~$35/hr (CAD) but the cost of living is just so goddamn high where I live that it’s not quite enough to get me by comfortably. So really, if I were doing this job elsewhere then that’s fine, my job’s really not that hard. but realistically, because of the state of my province, I’d give them my 100% for 45. They seem pretty happy with the 75% I’m putting in now though (some days less).
I don’t know because I think if people got paid fair wages the world would look very different, and the cost of living calculations we currently use to determine fair wages would change in ways I can’t predict.
I think that with aggressive progressive taxes, we’d see the range of incomes get compressed, and lift lower incomes. I’m not entirely sure how that’d affect cost of living, it’d probably go up, but wages would go up more.
But if I had to guess, if say everyone should be making between $100k and $300k, and I should probably be somewhere in the middle of that.
Funny enough, California has a very progressive tax system, and has higher than normal income inequality but a higher base standard of living than the rest of the US. I think having an economy with more opportunities for people inflates everyone’s income, including the rich.
But it brings up a question, if everyone were to have a decent standard of living, is it as big a problem that rich people exist? Obviously we’re not there yet, but hypothetically in a post scarcity world, it’s an interesting thing to think about.
To me, the ideal system would be everyone has enough to live comfortably, and the rest is allocated according to how hard or smart people work.
I’d just like to keep what I earn, taxes are ridiculous.
How much do you make, and how much goes to taxes?
Google says i should make ~$150k. The sheer scope and complexity of my work deserves far more in my opinion. That and stupid tax to deal with a major corporation. So, I’ll round up to an even $200k. Full effort… $300k.
I’ll do anything for a room, food, security, internet, and a few thousand dollars a year for electronics and bike parts. I’m pretty useless but will try as hard as I can manage. I can’t really go anywhere, and I need someone to do my grocery shopping. I’m out of the house for a PT routine most days for around 1-2 hours. I’m quiet, and don’t say much, but I cook a ton of really good food once every couple of weeks, I grow stuff, ferment stuff, will do your laundry and care for the cats. I’m in a lot of pain, but you’ll see that I care a ton in my own ways. I can fix almost anything from a car to electronics to household stuff but I’m super slow. Physically I exist for around 1 hour a day where I can be upright and working on something. I’d love someone to unspeakable levels if they wanted me. Money has no value to me. I just want stability and security to live the best version of what remains of my existence. I can’t travel or do much else without causing me harm. When I become homeless in the future, I won’t last very long. I don’t know how to put a number on that.
There are tons of jobs where the required physical effort is zero. They hire you for your brain, not your physical ability.
Disability is way more complicated than it may seem. I’m generally capable, but I go through major ups and downs of sleep depravation that make me professionally incompetent. I have extensive spinal damage. I must maintain a physical therapy routine to limit my ups and downs, but every month or two, some little anomaly will cause me injury and take a week or two before I can recover to 4-6 hours of sleep. Like I can’t turn my head very far left. If I try, there is a high probability of injury near the limit of how far I can rotate. Most of my damage is in the thoracic (ribs) region. This is super rare and unlike any other types of back problems that people usually associate with back problems.
I can’t take sleeping aids or my problems are much worse. I flop around like crazy every 5-10 minutes even when I’m sleeping. It is hard to communicate pain tolerances and quantify what is a lot of pain. As an indicator, I’ve raced bicycles, ridden over 200 miles in a day for fun, crashed multiple times breaking bones, including ribs, and still rode home tens of miles when I could have made a phone call for a ride easily. Even when such an injury could cause me harm in theory because of my chronic issues, the pain is irrelevant to me. I’m the Black Knight of cyclists as far as I’m concerned. It took two SUV’s at the same time to substantially injure me and neither of them recovered from the fight and got crushed, kidding… but…
I’ve run my own business with employees twice and managed for someone else. I would not hire me.
My actual job - a little more than i make. Dealing with the BS - priceless.
