• Varyk@sh.itjust.works
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    15 days ago

    “You’ve been duped and you don’t know it.”

    more vague fabrications?

    not as convincing as you hope.

    “I was referring to why you’ve been told lies by politicians.”

    my evidence is from credible news sources with long-term reliability, not politicians, which you put too much stock in.

    If you’re just learning that politicians don’t always tell the truth, you should avoid doling out political advice for a while.

    “You’re very much a victim of propaganda.”

    oh, more vague insults without any evidence?

    look at that.

    instead of making things up, try to address the points I’ve made.

    you know, the very clear definition of genocide being perpetrated by Israel, going back half a century?

    The actual relevant material in this thread.

    you can continue making stuff up and sounding clueless, but exposing your ignorance isn’t doing you any favors so far.

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      If you’re just learning that politicians don’t always tell the truth, you should avoid doling out political advice for a while.

      Jesus nobody said I was just learning this. Where did I say that? Nowhere.

      At this point I’m certain you’re not reading a goddamn thing that I write, just waiting to write more. You’re dishonest in your approach to the conversation and therefore a total waste of my time. Have a good day, troll.

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        “you’re not reading a goddamn thing that I write”

        I’m reading all of your vague irrelevant implications, they’re just completely immaterial to what we’re talking about.

        they don’t matter, so I don’t care.

        “You’re dishonest in your approach to the conversation”

        your claim is that Israel is not committing a genocide according to the definition of genocide.

        you have no evidence to support your claim.

        according to the definition of genocide, Israel is committing genocide against Palestine right now systematically persecuting their ethnicity, culture and nationality.

        you have no rebuttal to the genocide and you have no evidence for your false claim.

        “Have a good day”

        done and done.

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        14 days ago

        They’re literally quoting you and responding to the literal quote.

        You just don’t like what they’re saying.

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          That is not the case. They added an implied idea and attacked that part. It’s called a straw man in fallacy terminology, and this person is littered with them. They already misquoted once and attacked that as well.

          If you need to read it again and again until you get it, eventually it will click. At some point I stopped replying to any of these because unfortunately, I am communicating in a precise way, and they are not capable or not willing to patiently read and understand what I’ve said. Maybe it’s not as well educated or studied, maybe English isn’t their primary language… I don’t know. But I realized that there’s no point because it’s like arguing with children; there are some things they just don’t and won’t comprehend - at least not accurately or precisely. And I know, yeah the reflexive instinct is to just start calling me arrogant etc. and that’s fine, I don’t really care. Sometimes someone is just not capable of understanding what someone else is saying, and they get angry and defensive, and call the other person whatever. But there really is no point in furthering the discussion. I was in their place many years ago, so I am aware of the point of view. Some day, maybe they’ll be wiser, maybe not.

          Have a good day. P.S. This really is just a courteous response because maybe you didn’t really realize any of this. But I’m not inviting further conversation because I was also recently reminded about the unfortunate demographics. Mostly very young, idealistic kids, often not very well educated, and nearly always so far to the extreme of liberal it literally turns my stomach. I’m a democrat and most of us hate what the new liberal has done to our particular image. It takes age and wisdom sometimes to realize you have a lot to learn. Everyone today from teen and upward thinks they’re an authoritative scholar when in fact, they’re just a smartass kid with a small amount of knowledge. The good thing is most of them if they’re too lazy to be bothered to learn before they speak, they’re usually too lazy to vote, too. That’s quite a relief.

          History is important, having a first-hand wealth of experience is very beneficial, and will always be more useful than an ideology and being too impressionable for one’s own good. Again, have a wonderful day.

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            13 days ago

            This forum is all the better because it doesn’t have genocide justifying fascist scum on it.

            You didn’t say anything that would make anyone think. You posted rants about how ignorant people who responded to you were while ignoring not just their valid points but all of their points.

            You are a failure morally. You’re also a failure at arguing. You wouldn’t convince anyone that didn’t already agree with you in the first place. If you’re posting with the hope of having any impact on the minds of others I would suggest you don’t even bother. You’re just wasting everyone’s time.

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              13 days ago

              Yeah your attitude makes sense to me. No worries. You somehow managed to get literally every assumption you made about me wrong. Congrats! It’s fine; maybe some people will read what YOU guys were saying, and be concerned that history is about to repeat itself because children who are the future would rather get their “knowledge” from YouTube than history books.

              I don’t need you to agree with me, to respect me, or to actually understand the first thing about me. Others can read the hate and fear in all your words.

              Again, have a very good day.