• AEHNH@lemmy.ml
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    17 days ago

    A “pacifist” who goes to war for their country is affiliated with a political ideology called nationalism

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      17 days ago

      would you not defend your country if you were invaded? i’d assume most normal people would

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        The country I was born in was born itself from genocide. The first people to arrive had worked to erase a whole people, culture and knowledge because there was land and resources to be stolen.

        Women were raped, children were stolen, men were killed. Even to this day, you can’t go a year without multiple stories of disgusting abuse from the federal police against indigenous people.

        The same country who stuck as many of the surviving genocided people into reservations. The same country that federally determined that those same people do not deserve clean drinking water in the reservations they were forced into. My tax dollars are funding a genocide today.

        And what does Canada do? Point to China, accuse them of genocide against the Uyghur people. Hypocrisy. Absolute hypocrisy.

        I refuse to fight for this country. I don’t feel free. I don’t see people feeling free. I think I must fight for the people whose land has been stolen over some imaginary borders that denies me the freedom to connect with people.

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          17 days ago

          I get it, and i agree. But I’m not going to let the US or Russia roll tanks into Canada and make their way to those reserves, as they are the first Canadians and deserve everything for a better life. I will add though that some band chiefs do not make matters better when money given to them doesn’t make it to those who need it. They are as much to blame in modern times as much as the federal government.

          While on the topic, one thing that struck me as odd, was that people are shocked pikachu face about residential schools. I learned about this shit in the 90’s. How is it that nobody knew about this other than the survivors? I blame ignorance.

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            I will add though that some band chiefs do not make matters better when money given to them doesn’t make it to those who need it. They are as much to blame in modern times as much as the federal government.

            I refuse to victim blame. These people were put in shitty conditions. What good examples did these people have after having so much of their people, culture and knowledge eradicated? It seems their examples came from their savage invaders.

            Blame the true savages who came with murderous intent. They set the expectations. They spread their greedy culture. They made themselves the adult in the room and beat anyone who disagreed with them, including their own who saw the injustices.

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              I’m not victim blaming, it’s been proven even from people living on reserves that they don’t see this money come to them (sometimes this is not a absolute truth). What we need is A) build proper housing that’s safe B) provide clean drinking water (i cannot believe this is still an issue in 2024) and provide medical care and mental health support to those who need it. And we need to work with these people on the ground, not a representative. This problem needs to end once and for all, and these people need to be recognized as equals, not less.

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                Proven? Provide proof.

                You seem to know what these people need. What are you willing to do for them? Would you rather fight and die for the Country of Canada or for the people whose land has been stolen?

                It sucks being forced to pick a side. I hate it. I don’t want it. I want to live in peace but bad people keep doing bad things. My life is threatened when any other group of people are targeted. Sitting on the sidelines pointing fingers at everyone just lets the bad people gather more strength. A person’s inaction is someone else’s death.

                To be transparent on my part, I have not done anything to help beyond learning and listening. I am however working on a project currently that aims to bridge the knowledge gap, even just a little bit.

                It’s easy to say things, a lot harder to do them.

                If it came down to it, I’d die fighting for indigenous people. Invading forces means nothing. If Russia or China took over Canada, that just means even more genocide so what’s the difference if Canada is already commiting genocide.

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                  17 days ago

                  i’m going hand’s off on this one. You just said that we are committing genocide right now. yikes.

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                    The year is 2024, we stuffed a group of people into reservations and federally announced that we don’t need to provide clean drinking water to the people forced into those reservations. You mentioned that yourself.

                    Just because there’s no bullets flying does not mean these people aren’t suffering. Physically, mentally, it’s pain for them. I stand by my statement.

                    The yikes should be pointed at those to enable these horrifying actions. The yikes should be pointed at those who refuse to acknowledge these horrifying actions.

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                    17 days ago

                    Canada is genocidal. From Indigenous peoples to supporting the genocide of Palestinians, Canada is genocidal.

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          That doesn’t really matter to me. If it did i see your point. But i am proud to be Canadian and will defend the country with my life. I was born here and this is my home, i wouldn’t let any other country change it at all, our politics will be decided by the peoples of our country, not other countries to roll in with tanks and soldiers.