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      Careful, apparently a lady got charged for suggesting health insurance company might be next.

      National headline and all

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        To be fair, she also added “you people are next” which probably sounded more threatening than just those 3 words alone. Not that I agree with it, but thats how the authorities see it.

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          State has the burden of proof.

          Would a reasonable person feel threatened here?

          Her capacity?

          We all can see what the government is doing… Do you think they treat every customer service abuse with this zeal?

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            Arrests have lower threshold of proof than a conviction in court. Which is why the cops got away with doing this.

            The requirement of arrest is “probable cause” and her words probably meets that definition.

            In court, its “beyond a resonable doubt” which probably wouldn’t be met.

            She wont get convicted, they are just arresting her and charging her with crimes to scare her and make an example of her.

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          Reddit is undergoing a serious scrab… There won’t be much evidence of the genuine sentiment.

          Shills are back doing politics shit.

          Although they are getting called out for it for now it seems.

          They will keep this up until Unity falls

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    In three consecutive months, for the same amount of the same medication from the same pharmacy, I paid 270$, 30$, and 0$.

    Healthcare pricing is complete fucking bullshit.

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    A pediatric neurologist told me definitively that my oldest son did not have autism. After a year of no improvement and assuming he was a particularly hard to diagnose, I got on the wait-list at the local university medical hospital. They were able to diagnose him quickly (apparently he’s pretty text book, but the pediatric neurologist didn’t ask the right questions). But he had been without supporting therapies and help in school for years as a result of the misdiagnosis.

    My other kid (also autistic) had an ear ache. The urgent care doc was unfamiliar with how to deal with an autistic kid and assumed he didn’t have an ear infection. The next day his ear drum burst and we ended up at the big children’s hospital.

    In both cases we had huge delays in appropriate care and had to pay twice.

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    I went to the ER once because my heart was acting weird. Turns out it was a benign issue, but they kept me over night to be safe. $10k copay. Insurance covered almost nothing. I paid $10 a month for 5 years and eventually they called me and said they would take $2000 if I paid it all right then.

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    European visiting the US, so it’s going to be pretty mild.

    This was early January, 2021, so I needed a negative covid test before I could start the one month of work I had planned (my reason for being there).

    Me: “Noted. I see there’s a clinic across the street from my hotel, I can have it done tomorrow morning.”
    Shoreside rep: "Sorry, can’t do that here. It has to be this specific clinic with which we have an agreement.
    Me: “How about my travel insurance, won’t they cover it anywhere?”
    Rep: “We don’t know that until billing, and then you’d have to expense the copay, which management doesn’t like”

    That’s when I learned wtf “copay” is. I had loads to do the day after, but I spent most of the day in a car, back and forth, so that I could visit this one specific clinic for a test that took five minutes.

    And if Houston city planners weren’t bribed by Big Concrete and Big Car Dealership, I’m sure the ride would have been significantly shorter as well. As a sidenote, I find it pervertedly fascinating that Houston is a city that somehow manages to be located surprisingly far from Houston itself.

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      Ah. COVID.

      When the vaccine came out it was allocated in stages. Healthcare providers and the elderly were prioritized. As they should be. When it was finally available to the general public, the state released a website that helped you find the nearest pharmacy with doses. And it was guaranteed to be free.

      I found one local pharmacy in a nearby village and we got our dose. They didn’t ask for a copay, but did write down our insurance info. Two weeks later, we got a bill from United Health because we unknowingly used an out of network pharmacy for our ‘free’ shots.

      Minor thing, but it’s just an example of our garbage. I’ve never had a good experience with healthcare in the US. OK - scratch that. The time I needed stitches for a bad cut, the receptionist who was billing me whispered that “If you’re any kind of ‘medical professional,’ you can remove them yourself and avoid another visit.” Shit - I own stuff for sewing. That was good, although slightly painful advice.

      Canada was wild, though. I visited a walk-in clinic for an abscess on my leg. No bill. I also visited the ER with chest pain. In both cases I felt like a criminal for leaving without giving them my credit card info.

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        Staged rollout here as well (I think that was pretty universal). Due to traveling a lot, I asked the people at my local Village clinic (yeah, I live in the middle of nowhere), if it was possible for them to make a note that if they happened to have any leftovers doses in the group before me (such as if someone didn’t want theirs for whatever reason), if I could have it.

        I made it clear that I didn’t want to jump the queue ahead of anyone before me, as I’m reasonably healthy, but I could really use being at least first in my group.

        And I’m glad I did, because they obliged, and a month later I found myself back in the US, and this time I caught covid. I’m sure the vaccines was what caused it to be extremely mild, bordering asymptomatic.

        Come to think of it, I’ve caught covid twice, both times in the US.

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    Once upon a time there was a man who was very, very, very, very, very glad he never had to deal with the American healthcare system. He lived happily ever after.

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    Nothing totally outrageous as I’ve been pretty lucky to not need to request for a denial for anything major, but I had an issue with pain in a toe and went to a podiatrist who said they’d need an MRI to tell what was going on. UHC denied it and said that I should just do an ultrasound, which the podiatrist said would just be a waste of money as they wouldn’t be able to see anything there, but I wasted my money anyway and naturally he wasn’t able to see anything…

    The pain eventually went away for a bit, but now it’s just an occasional reoccurring thing that I just deal with as opposed to wasting more money on copays for nothing.

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    Where’s the one guy who had “good” insurance but still almost died because his employer was being bought out when he got sick

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    First one:

    About ten years ago my husband got a job and our health insurance changed providers (very common here). My second child needed a refill on his control inhaler for asthma. He’d been on the same one since he was initially diagnosed at 2 years old. Insurance denied covering that brand (which was older and therefore cheaper) until he tried expensive brand. Expensive brand was $80 out of pocket, and I am still livid that they fucked around with his health like that. The only way they’d consider covering the original one was if we tried expensive brand and it didn’t work. For a six year old. With asthma. Thankfully, it did work but it still pisses me off.

    Second one:

    Shit happened and my kids and I ended up on state Medicaid for almost a year. My state privatized it and they declined to cover every. single. visit. and now, years later, I’m still fighting for them to retroactively cover visits so I’m not on the hook for thousands of dollars.

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    it was seemingly resolved but I did get a $1600 bill years after getting some bloodwork done due to one of the myriad tests “not being pre authorized” After a millions backs and fourths between the billing department at the hospital and my insurance it was determined that what had happened was the 3rd party company that “authorizes” blood work (after a doctor orders it and insurance reviews it and the patient gets the blood stolen) had changed names and somehow the idiots in the billing department at the hospital that deals with this company on a daily basis somehow didn’t know this. Why was I the one who had to figure this out and not the people paid to do that? Only Brian Thompson knows.

    Related, my insurance changed its name this July, let everyone know repeatedly for months, but that didnt stop some clerical agent at my drs. office to message me and say they don’t take my insurance and are beginning the offboarding process until I told them its literally the same company. Their response was basically the Ah, Eto… BLEGH meme.

    I feel like these companies will change their names constantly just as another attempt to not pay out what they are supposed to.

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    My husband was diagnosed with ulcerative colitis in his early 40s. There was a medication that kept his symptoms more or less in control.

    Then he lost his job. The meds ran out and it turns out they cost thousands of dollars without his work insurance plan. This was just before Obamacare, and there was no way we could afford unsubsidized insurance for him on my salary.

    His colitis got exponentially worse, and was treated only spotadically when I could scrape together a few hundred dollars for the doctor visit, where he might be able to get enough free samples of the med or a round of steroids to reduce the gut inflammation.

    One night as we were lying in bed winding down to sleep, I heard him drop his magazine on the floor and start what I now know was agonal breathing. I called 911 and did my best with CPR, but his heart had stopped and in all likelihood he was dead before the paramedics arrived. He was 53 years old.

    I found out from his death certificate that he had severe ischemic heart disease. It was undiagnosed because he hadn’t had regular medical care for years because of the vicious circle of unmedicated symptoms/inability to work/no insurance.

    That’s my horror story. There’s also my 4+year quest to be diagnosed with MS, being told by multiple doctors that if I lost weight I wouldn’t be so fatigued I could barely move, or have vertigo, or fall down for no reason, or whatever symptom I had at the time. But hey, at least that story eventually ended with diagnosis and treatment… as long as I have my job and insurance, anyway.

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    I work in healthcare, and the response from the workers in my hospital to the UHC CEO assassination has been… pretty much the same as the response here on Lemmy!

    Couple morale-high-horse folks pearl clutching about no one deserves to die or some shit; but 99% of us are on team Luigi.

    We fucking hate parts of this industry, with a strong emphasis on insurance bullshit.

    My two cents from the inside.

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    I’m intersex and have both male and female anatomy. US healthcare “insurance” isn’t coded for people like me. It assumes a sex binary when the facts of reality show otherwise.

    Back at my old job, I had full premium health insurance. However, they kept denying each and every claim, denying literally everything. They unofficially recognized my intersex condition and used it against me.

    Whenever I filed a claim as female, they’d deny it and claim I was male and thus the claim was incorrectly filled out. When I filed as male, they’d pull the exact same stunt now claiming I’m female and thus the claim was incorrectly filled out. Whatever the claim, large or small, it was always the wrong sex on the paperwork.

    It was a "heads I win, tails you lose" situation. I have a better job with the government and with a different insurance company, but they too are starting to pull the same stunt. I hate this country for allowing such corruption to thrive.

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      This is something I haven’t really thought about. I work in healthcare and I can genuinely tell you I’d have no idea how to handle this, if your meds got sent to my pharmacy there would likely be a huge delay and I guarantee you it would not be anything intentional on our side 😭 of course an insurance company will have dealt with this many more times than a chain pharmacy and should have practices in place for such situations, but I don’t think there’s anything in my system I could do to say someone is both male and female.

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        I can genuinely tell you I’d have no idea how to handle this

        Yeah that’s pretty much the story of my life. Everyone from insurance, to employers, to the military, to legal paperwork, to traveling, and everything else. I was even excommunicated from my church when I was 12 for the “crime” of being intersex.

        Not only do I have this issue, my little brother and my uncle on my mom’s side does too.

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    Backstory: I have hemochromatosis. My body doesn’t eliminate iron like most people’s. As a result I am at risk of getting iron deposition in my organs; most commonly the liver and kidneys are affected.
    The simple treatment for hemochromatosis is therapeutic phlebotomy; bloodletting. When my ferretin (iron) count in my blood gets high I have to donate blood to get it lower. This wouldn’t be an issue except I need to do so weekly/bi-weekly and not the requisite waiting period blood donor centers require.
    Because of this I have to get ‘therapeutic phlebotomies’ ordered by my hepatologist.

    I could not afford to pay my entire balance with the healthcare provider my doctor’s office is part of. Their system would not allow me to make a partial payment and would not allow me to check in for my appointment unless I paid the amount in full ($450+). Because of this I could not attend my doctor’s visit and because we did not have a visit they cannot prescribe the routine maintenance my condition requires.

    TLDR: I have a genetic condition with one of the easiest treatment plans which is giving my blood away, something that saves lives, but I cannot receive treatment because I cannot pay my full balance with the healthcare provider.

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      How does this work with the reproduction of new blood cells when you donate so often? I donate blood as often as I can and missing 500ml of the red juice is really noticeable.

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        I did drink a lot of water but otherwise felt really good with fresh oil. I donated 32 times the first year I was diagnosed. Weekly was the most frequent I could do it, sometimes if my vitals or hemoglobin were off I would have to skip. My ferritin was 2700ng/mL when I found out. The normal range is 30-400. When I had a liver biopsy it showed my bile was carrying iron, something my hepatologist had never seen.

        Once I got my ferritin down I was able to donate less often but whenever my count gets higher I have to donate more frequently. Unfortunately I no longer can see the doctor who is familiar with my case and can’t afford the time off of work to find a new doctor covered by my insurance.