I use Ubuntu btw. Poweroff could use more write cycles on the SSD because it has to read everything at startup, but suspend has to keep supplying power to the RAM
What is power…off?
Like back in the 90s??
Just chiming in to point out that powering off and then starting back up won’t cause any additional SSD wear, reading from flash memory doesn’t use up write cycles* (because there is no writing going on!). In fact, regularly restarting could be slightly more friendly for your SSD, because the /tmp directory, old log files, etc. get deleted on startup, freeing up the storage blocks used by the deleted files so that the SSD can use them for its internal wear balancing.
*technically, flash memory reads do very slightly degrade the data being read, but this effect is absolutely negligible compared to other forms of passive bit rot in flash memory and is basically irrelevant unless you’re intentionally trying to corrupt data using reads (which won’t happen because the flash controller will fix it before it becomes corrupt to the point of being illegible)
y’all been powering down your systems?
had my servers up for like a decade or more…
I power off so that my drive encrypts when I’m not using it
Yeah I am a bit paranoic sometimes about it too
My work machine (Ubuntu) gets suspended at the end of the day during the week and shut down on Friday. It’s a good balance between keeping my many programs running and ready and cleaning up regularly.
I always shut down my desktop pc (Arch, btw) as it takes just a few seconds to boot up.
My laptop (Arch) I shut down because suspend never worked.
Suspend. The amount of power required to keep RAM alive is negligent.
Suspend. The amount of power required to keep RAM alive is negligent.
I believe, based on context, that you mean to use the word “negligible.” The sentence means the opposite of what you intended it to mean if you use “negligent.” As in, “It would be negligent to waste that much power.”
I agree with negligent! Using suspend to ram for extended periods, eg nightly or over weekend will kill your battery life.
Power off because usually when I turn my laptop off, I’m going to be keeping it off for a long enough period of time that suspend would just not be worth the battery drain.
Power off to get the full security benefits of disk encryption.
Power off unless I’ll be using it again soon.
After shutting down anything in use, I use suspend set for a 35-minute delay. Most evenings I listen to bed-time audio. Ubuntu hasn’t been terribly reliable, works about 2/3 of the time.
Power off, since my computers boots pretty quickly.
I suspend it, until I get around to set up hybernation. I don’t care about startup time. I care about all the windows being there exactly as I left them, without exception.
Power Off to secure that things get updated and resetting float integers in case they would go haywire
Poweroff could use more write cycles on the SSD because it has to read everything at startup, but suspend has to keep supplying power to the RAM
for this, I would say SSD is more valuable personally, so if that was my only reason, I’d suspend to RAM every time
My computer’s generally doing stuff I have it set to do, so I don’t suspend to RAM
Laptop gets turned off when going outside, also encrypted
With how fast boot times are nowadays? I shutdown nightly and save me the hassle of having to worry about some weird oddity occurring, usually it doesn’t but every once and a blue moon plasma hangs on the lockscreen and I get greeted with either a broken desktop or a pitch black screen, both usually are easiest to resolve via rebooting anyway.
Hmmm, but in the wee hours is when I have my backups and automated maintenance scheduled.
I have timeshift running hourly regardless if using the system. Once the initial backup is complete, any actual performance drops are very negligible since it uses incremental backups, I don’t even notice the program is running most the time. As for automated maintenance, I don’t really have anything like that, I run an update manually every few days, but I could probably configure unattended-updates to do it for me, I just don’t like the idea of automating that.
Snapshots, or actual backups? You’re doing full system backups hourly?
My backups go pretty fast, but they still impact CPU, and interfere with both network, SSD, and USB bandwidth. I could do that hourly, but jesus that’d impact my B2 bill significantly. And I hate having things randomly slow down.
Snapshots are cheap and fast, but they aren’t backups.
Timeshift uses incremental backups under the hood (using rsync) calling them snapshots. As long as you are using the rsync one and not the BTRF style one, it works the same. I can load my current setup from a live disk and restore just the same.
Basically the first backup ever done is a “full backup” then every backup past that is an incremental one.
Being said, my off site backup isn’t using a cloud provider, my risk case doesn’t need that, I store backups locally and then clone to an offsite every once and awhile
Always power off everything and anything i can eg , routers, TV, switches, desktop PC etc
