• teslasaur@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago
    1. Vote locally

    2. Run locally

    If you can rally people behind a cause, go for it.

    Other than that. Nothing really. Try to spend money with those that align with your values.

    Unrelated, but likely more important. Donate to charity, or help the homeless in your own community.

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    7 days ago

    When the government is powerful enough to cause genocides, that’s a problem. It’s far easier to just not give your money to a business that engages in such practices.

    Not giving money to your government, however, is considered tax evasion.

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    7 days ago

    leave the country. You are paying taxes, purchasing goods and services, raising families, and just being here enables the genocide machine to continue churning. We have no representation here. It’s all performative. But take their money away and oh boy do they notice that.

  • delusion@lemmy.myserv.one
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    Talk with people! Discuss it with your friends! Be aware that they might have a very different outlook on this, so be patient with people. Here is a list of things to do when discussing this with people supporting Israel:

    • Don’t berate them. These are your friends, not murderers. Direct your anger towards the actual murderers.
    • Ask them if they believe Israel is mounting a heavy disinformation/propaganda campaign towards the west. If they do not believe this, it is relatively easy to prove, see example below.
    • Show them the Twitter accs of Itamar Ben Gvir and Bezalel Smotrich. These guys are quite outspoken in their intentions.
    • Show them examples of heroic acts of Palestinas, rather than just Palestinians suffering. This will help them respect Arabs, as that seems to be difficult for many Americans due to two and a half decades of Indoctrination that all arabs all terrorists.
    • Also the obvious things (tens of thousands of children killed, not letting food enter, cutting off water, etc)

    Example of Israeli disinformation: They created a fake hamas website (hamas dotttt com) whereas the real website was taken down from all of internet (hamas dottt ps). The fake one was heavily promoted by Israel’s official twitter acc and several Israeli government officials on twitter and recieved heavy traffic during Oct 2023-end of 2024. Use the wayback machine or similar for this, I believe both sites are down now.

    There has also been many, many other lies by the Israeli government. Find proved examples and show.

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        Most nations are built on genocide, it’s an unfortunate part of human nature to be cruel to those not like your group.I mean the last hundred years alone, the of Cossacks if Crimea, the holocaust, Kaiser run Germany committed one before WW2, Ottomans genocide Armenia, China is actively engaged in one now, as well as Israels current actions in Gaza, and that’s just off the top of my head, but somehow only the USA is built on it. You ignore the skeletons in your own foundations and dishonor yourself and their deaths by doing so

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            You’re saying they don’t pay for their weapons? Pretty sure we would stop selling them weapons if they weren’t ever paying for them.

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              I am indeed saying that. Remember that the US government doesn’t have state run arms industries: the money is going to private companies regardless of whether Israel buys them, or the US government buys them and gifts them to Israel. It’s not about money.

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                True we don’t have state run arms industries but never think the military industrial complex isn’t part of the government. In America it’s always about the money.

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                  Yeah, but the military industrial complex still gets its cut when the US gifts Israel weapons, it just comes from the US tax payers.

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    • get a sniper rifle
    • train to take out targets at a large distance
    • know where and when ICE will be, especially where they will muster before one of their “raids”
    • in many cases, there will be little to no difference between ICE and LEO. Both are putting on brown shirts and violently attacking their own communities.

    Fascism can only be perpetuated when fascists do not fear being killed. If you are not with them, they will gladly kill you – it’s time you took steps to protect yourself and your community.

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    Vote with your wallet. Money is the only thing that matters to the people in charge here

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      Voting with your wallet is a lie, like recycling plastic

      You can’t do collective action individually. You can make the house hurt a little bit, but you’ll never force them to change through what you buy. The house always wins, unless you get together to change the rules

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        I disagree with this. You can already see a recent example of Canadian consumers avoiding US imports, creating pressure on US companies, and the US government reacting by making moves to curtail the original tarrifs proposal.

        Obviously the Canadian boycott was only one component but I believe it did have a meaningful impact.

        Kind of agree with you re:plastics. Last time I read about it they could only be recycled once into inferior quality plastic. Ironically in this case I’d suggest voting with your wallet is a solution to the plastic problem since businesses will react to more consumers switching to responsibly packaged products like paper bags for fruit + veg from a local grocers. One of the large supermarket chains in the UK, Waitrose, switched to paper bags due to public pressure in the past few years.

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          The Canadian boycotts are not “voting with your wallet”, they’re collective action.

          Canadians, together, decided to boycott American goods. Their leaders cancelled deals. Their local stores and suppliers decided they’d rather source from anywhere else. The Canadian government started working on trade deals with everyone else

          The nation of Canada as a whole is boycotting American goods. They’re not doing this individually, they have an organized response

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            Encouraging people to vote with their wallet creates collective action. How do you think these things start? You telling people not to bother is exactly how you prevent it.

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              No, that’s backwards. You don’t reduce plastic by recycling, you don’t change corporate behavior by not buying their stuff

              If a company loses a customer, that’s nothing. If a company has less sales, that’s a marketing problem. They aren’t going to operate more morally now, because it’s a business problem and a PR problem

              Boycotts are very different. You get a block of people together, you tell them “we’re all boycotting you because X”, and then they see it in their numbers. You do it loudly. The investors get nervous, you’ve very publicly connected the cause and effect, other businesses might join in to take advantage, etc

              You have to organize first, it’s great to shop ethically if you can, but you’re just acting as the market as a whole… Are they going to start farming more sustainably, or are they going to try to convince consumers they are? One of these things is much easier and cheaper

              If you’re organized, you can come back with “hey everyone, they’re bullshitting us, keep up the boycott”

              The dangerous part of this is that without organization, people feel like they’re fixing the problem when they’re not. It gives an illusion of control that isn’t there

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                Voting with your wallet can be a boycott. Seems like you’re really mincing words here and creating a false equivalent to recycling plastic that no one else is using as a comparison.

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                  It’s not a false equivalence, it’s the same exact thing

                  Its a lie. The lie is “you can do collective action individually”. You can’t… That’s not how any of this works

                  Boycotts are real. Voting with your wallet is just shopping.

                  There’s no message to it, no power - just a slice of consumers to market to differently or a need to pivot

      • Coco@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        Buy local, in cash.

        Every card transaction benefits the big credit card companies, all of which are complicit. Local businesses are some of the ones hit hardest from all of this and will need your support.

        Avoid chains owned by local folks, too. Those big chains still benefit even if it’s your neighbor that owns the local McDonalds.

        Support things the government is trying to destroy, like your local library, and your local stores that sell LGBT positive merchandise.

        Make friends with your neighbors. Grow things in your yard that they need and trade for stuff you need. Many folks that seem in agreement with all of this really aren’t if you know them. We are stronger together.

        In regards to home gardens, Not everyone needs everything, but everyone needs something. If you can get chickens or some kind of egg laying fowl, then that’s a possibility as well. Guineas are fighters and do well in areas without a lot of brush or low trees.

        Bike as much as you can. Avoid gas as much as you can. Ride the bus or a train. Don’t fly anywhere. Install solar panels if you are able. Capture rain water and use it for your garden.

        But used as much as possible, especially clothes.

        Replace your single use materials in your home with reusable ones. Rags instead of paper towels, glass containers instead of plastic ones, metal straws, and a water pick instead of floss.

        Make things. Anything. Don’t monetize your hobbies, share them instead. Trade homemade goods and art for other stuff.

        Avoid the dollar as much as possible, and use cash when you can’t.

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          Where possible, avoid buying from companies that are complicit.

          Unless you buy from local creators/farmers, EVERYONE is complicit.

          • throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works
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            But your local farmers likely voted for the more genocidal candidate. Does that count as being complicit?

            Also, their seeds likely have to rebought every year from some corporation, due to patents BS, meaning you are still indirectly supporting evil.

            Ah fuck, we’re all gonna end up in The Bad Place.

          • Simply existing is destroying the planet, so, like many things, you practice harm reduction. If I need to buy hardware or tools, and there’s no local shop, I go to Lowe’s. Not because Lowe’s is awesome, it’s a shitty corporation. But because Home Depot donates money to groups that practice gay conversion therapy, which is worse than anything I know of that Lowe’s does.

            Pretty much every decision you make can be about harm reduction on some level. Don’t let perfect be the enemy of better.

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              My problem is that I never even HEARD of the Home Depot thing.

              Here’s one you may or may not know about. Nestle actually engages in and uses literal slave labor to grow coco beans in other countries.

              So you think “well, how hard is it really to just buy hersheys chocolate instead? And buy your cookies from local bakeries?”

              Except no. Nestle is more than just chocolate. It’s like hundreds of brands. I’m constantly checking packaging now to see if their logo is on products. It owns DiGorno pizza. It owns Hot Pockets. It owns water bottles. It’s like half the grocery store. And that’s just ONE COMPANY!!!

              My issue isn’t accepting that you’re right. My issue is keeping track of it all. I’ve hated Nestle since 2012. I didn’t realize the scope of their brands until 2020. I think they even own a pet food company that makes dog food and cat food. Now granted I don’t have pets, so I’d not have delt with that, but still.

              I only have so many brain cells left to rot before I’m a full on dementia ridden crazy person who thinks it’s still the Nixon years, despite the fact I was born in 1983.

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                The No Thanks app let’s you scan barcodes to quickly check if a product is on the BDS list. You can also search. Either way it only takes a few seconds to check if unsure about a brand

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      Thanks for attempting an answer. I’ve got to say this feels laughable in light of what’s going on.

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      This but big. Large scale disruption to the economy would do a lot toward fixing problems.

  • zombie bubble kitty@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    join your local protests today :)

    if protests didn’t work they wouldn’t try so hard to fight it/buty it

    they say violence is never the answer but historically, well, history disagrees.

    • grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org
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      And “fit” doesn’t have to mean “able to run a marathon”. That might not be achievable for you. Even minor improvements can be big, though. For example, I have lower back pain. It sucks and I do not recommend it.

      I’ve started physical therapy. It’s two 30-minute sessions a week, plus 10 minutes of homework stretches every day. My pain is much less than when I started.

      I feel much more able to do things like long trips to the grocery store. Before, I’d sometimes have to beg off and lie down in the car and let my partner finish the trip.

      Anyways, fitness. It’s good. YMMV, PT might not work for you, I am not a doctor.

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        And “fit” doesn’t have to mean “able to run a marathon”.

        True, but many people cannot jog a mile. Let alone a flight of stairs.

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          True! Let’s encourage them to work towards goals that seem attainable and worthwhile.

          Sometimes, just small changes can make a big difference to the individual. I used to take the elevator to my 5th-floor office. Now I take the stairs. The only conscious change to my routine was converting from carrying a bag/purse to carrying a backpack–I carry the same amount of stuff more comfortably, and so the stairs don’t seem daunting.

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      Fuck I’ll say that. The best thing for everybody is if Nazis are physically afraid to walk the streets.

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        Bold of you to assume they walk anywhere. This is America not communist China with public sidewalks and transit.

        /s