I have a strategy for when I get tailgated in the slow lane and it’s not brake checking because that’s what they expect. I’ll lock the cruise control to my desired speed. They get right up on my ass and don’t back off, I speed up putting space between me and them. At this point they’ll speed up and I’ll take my foot off the gas and let the car slow down back to cruise control speed. Repeat as necessary. The trick is to never touch the brakes. The driver behind me is alternating between speeding up and hitting the brakes. Eventually they’ll get tired of it and either pass or back off
Thanks I’m gonna try this
What’s with Lemmy and Avatar memes as of late?
Not that I’m complaining. I’m a foaming mouth guy tier fan, but I see a Koh the Face Stealer meme as more niche than, I dunno, a Doge meme or Spongebob.
Occasionally I just get on trends. If I see something posted and I’ve got memes of it, I’ll stick with the trend. Sometimes I’m just like fuck it I’ma just post the same thing a bunch which is why last week I had like 8 ratatoiulle memes in one day
I’m all for that.
There was a King of the Hill phase I was rather fond of too.
It always seems like white dudes in pickup trucks are the biggest assholes in the world
they give white women in SUVs a run for their money
(disclaimer am white woman. don’t drive SUV tho. moped/ebike)
at night with brights. how about 10mph until they rage on by.
I love my Mustang for this one reason. People don’t ride my ass and get out of my way. It’s nice.
I drive a NV200 (compact cargo van).
I could be driving warp 7 in a school zone and I swear people would be passing me and flipping the bird. It’s like they see that is not made for speed, so they’re required to treat it as slow.
I’d say those are hard to see around. So people are passing you to clear up their view.
It’s really not, though. It’s what New York uses for Taxis.
Does it have windows or metal doors and sides?
It’s the same when there’s a BMW, Audi or MB behind you. You can’t go fast enough to get them in your neck.
my radar detector says time to let them by
Why the hell is speeding so normalized?
Because on a lot of highways the speed limit is a joke. The 4 lane one I take to work is completely straight for like 30 miles and they have it set at 60mph. Many vehicles can (and do) easily go 80-90 on that without an issue. Proper lane usage and adhering to a safe following distance are far more important in terms of safety. There shouldn’t even be a speed limit in my opinion considering the wide variety of vehicles on the road. It’s pretty simple, drive as slow as you want just do it in the correct lane unless you’re passing. Signal. Pass in the passing lane. Don’t tailgate.
If they need to write tickets for revenue they can get people for cruising in the wrong lane all day long.
I’m pretty sure those who have set it at 60mph have calculations you didn’t consider.
Maybe there are places on the road where someone may suddenly appear, be it human or a wild animal? Maybe the road can get slippery? Maybe the cars going above 60mph create too much noise in the neighborhood? There are many more reasons one could set a road at that, and many may not even come to your mind.
And no, this is almost certainly not about tickets. If it is - screw them and follow the rule!
I wish vehicles made it harder to go above 65 MPH.(Like a mandated regulation to have the foot pedal feel harder to push past 65). Like I want to save money in this economy. Going above 65 is mostly a complete waste of money and will more likely than not save less than a minute or none at all because we all will hit the same red lights on the city streets. I hate how normalized we all become to it. I now mostly drive city streets with either electric vehicle or electric bike. Rent is criminally expensive, people really expecting me to waste money driving 75 on the highway? Fuck that
Like I want to save money in this economy. Going above 65 is mostly a complete waste of money and will more likely than not save less than a minute or none at all because we all will hit the same red lights on the city streets.
Then drive in the general purpose lane on the right AKA the “slow lane”. If anybody is mad at you for driving slowly in the slow lane, they are stupid and you shouldn’t trouble yourself over them.
Just don’t do it in any other lane, and you’re fine.
Maybe if you have a short commute. I can knock 15-20 minutes off my driving if traffic is light. That time is more valuable than the extra pennies I’d save on gas by driving slower. Why do you need the medal to tell you when you are pushing past 65? Just watch your speed.
Distance where going 75mph vs 65mph is 15min faster:
(d / 65mph) - (d / 75mph) =.25h
75d / 4875 - 65d / 4875 = .25
10d = .25 * 4875
d = .25 * 4875 / 10 = 121.875 mi
Pretty long commute
I was assuming the 15 time savings is two way, or else 120 miles one way is just insane and abnormal to expect from others. He can go cry me a river.
Ha, what kind of commute are you doing cross country? That is a wildly long commute. If you find that you need to do 50 to 60 mile commutes then it’s not the norm here. Most of my commutes are within 5 to 25 miles. Driving on the highway at 75 saves as I said, with 1 minute or none at all just because I will hit the same red lights at the same time as others, mind you I do notice when someone flies past me on the fast lane and we reach the same exit ramp stop light.
The pedal isn’t telling you, it’s basically making it so that you have to consciously push harder to go faster.(A natural deterrent to those who like to just push the car faster and faster without feeling).
Sorry if you like going fast, and your unnaturally long commute is required. I rather save money instead of living like I never can save any money. Prices went up, I felt the economy lose control. You think Trump is going to lower them? Not really confident in that myself.
I will hit the same red lights at the same time as others, mind you I do notice when someone flies past me on the fast lane and we reach the same exit ramp stop light.
Maybe over a short distance you will. Even then they’d be at the front of the line instead of stuck behind who knows how many idiots that are going to be staring at their phone when the light switches and cause you to get stuck behind it for a second time.
We are now discussing what ifs, and honestly that is valid. Still not worth it in my book. Rather blame the traffic controllers who don’t check to make sure all cars are going through the light or straight up there is just too much traffic which isn’t solved by everyone driving 75+ MPH. It is solved if we instead offer better public transportation. At the end of the day we have different views here. I firmly believe in my own and do not think it is going to change anytime soon.
The nice thing about my view is that it doesn’t preclude you from adhering to yours. Everyone can go exactly as fast as they want as long as they utilize the different lanes properly.
Plus saving pennies on gas? Sorry but that is the nature of a gas vehicle. They have a really short window of mpg between granny driving and rocketing at 75+.
I calculated it plenty. when driving 65 MPH, the air resistance is good enough for you to get 28 to 30 mpg. Let’s keep it simple and just say 30 mile trip. At 75+ MPH, your efficiency starts taking a major hit. You will likely be traveling at 25 MPG. That is a +20 percent increase on gas consumption. If you think of it, that is a consistent 18% to 20% loss on gas.
At $3.50/g(my current market) with an additional 20% increase of fuel usage so, $3.50 * 1.2 = $4.20
For a 15 gallon tank, you are burning $63 worth of fuel on average.
While on electric vehicle, it depends on types of charging. If you have solar then it’s free, I don’t. If you have simple home charger, my current rate is 20 cents per kWh. If you fast charge, then it is 50 to 60 cents per kWh.
Most of the time I am getting between 3.5(above 65 MPH) to 4.5(below 65 MPH) Miles per kWh. With 30 mile trip that is 8.57 kWh to 6.67 kWh usage. This helps translate to cost of gas because 1 gallon at 65 MPH is about 30 miles. So if I do only home charging that is $1.70 to $1.33 for electric. Fast charging that is about $4.70 to $3.67 for just the 30 miles.
15 gallons of gas can get you 375 miles at 25 MPG, or 450 at 30 MPG. Remember $63 for driving at 25 MPG vs $52.5 for driving at 30 MPG. With electric driving, to get 375 mile at 3.5 miles per kWh or 450 miles at 4.5 miles per kWh. we can translate them over.
(Above 65 MPH) 375/3.5 = 107.15 kWh * $0.20 = $21.42
(Below 65 MPH) 450/4.5 = 100 kWh * $0.20 = $20.00(Above 65 MPH) 107.15 kWh * $0.55 (fast charge) = $58.92
(Below 65 MPH) 100 kWh * $0.55 = $55.00See now how crazy expensive that becoming for gas while electric is barely taking a hit? Makes little difference for electric vehicles, but gas? That is not pennies.
Let me tell you I was being very generous with the MPG figure. I looked at family members MPG tracker on their car and they are getting 20 to 25 MPG, but I was being generous because isolating highway only driving is mostly a generous driving situation for a gas vehicle.
Too bad going electric is so cost prohibitive, living situation prohibited, and so on… Hard to put a charger in an apartment for example.
It is just plain math, we all living with what we can do. If you are stuck with gas, I hope you can save up cash for a house. My sister finds houses for rent that are about the same rental cost as an apartment. I also found apartments that have a garage for me to park into. Similar rent cost but added 150/m probably not going to save money on gas but at least there are options my family has found to accommodate our needs.
At the end of the day, driving electric or riding my bike, I save enough cash that I am able to save 150 to 300 a month.
I tested this on my car as well. I gain about 3 MPG by using the cruise control and adhering to the speed limit vs. Just driving how I want. It’s not worth the difference. Changing to shitty tires was a bigger hit to my MPG than that.
That is pretty significant difference between what I had experienced, i guess not much more mpg for your vehicle for you vs my own eco vehicle. sorry your car doesn’t experience more efficiency gains. I am good where I am at. My suggestion wasn’t to stop you from achieving what would be higher speeds but rather you will feel the gas pedal be much harder to push. That is all
in a multi lane highway, nobody expects you to be blazing when you’re on the outside lane. people only get pissed when you’re driving limit on the inside lane. if u wanna drive comfortably, just use the right lanes so people can pass you if they want. if it’s a single lane highway, don’t give a shit about others as long as you’re not way under the limit. there are almost always overtake sections of those highways where you see the “slower traffic use right lane”.
plus, there are roads with limits higher than 65 all over the place and there are recreational things you might want to do with your car.
I already am, don’t worry, plenty of people like to ride my ass, even when we can’t go any faster.
Because people don’t like to obey rules mostly
Because most speed limit zones have little to do with public safety and more to do with enforcing monetary ticket infractions.
But tailgating is and will always be a dick move
And why the hell is effectively running stop signs and red lights so normalized too?
If you are in America, its because our police fucking suck. There are no consequences until an accident happens.
Yup, US; and yup our police are mostly worthless or worse. I’ve never seen consequences even for DUI offenders.
I haven’t seen this in Sweden, while speeding is fairly common.
That makes sense, this is what I see in the selfish US. Be vigilant and keep your country and cultural mindset the way it is or better.
This.
I drive by the limit, and every time I say this a bunch of folks jumps in saying I am the problem when I stop my lane and poor poor speeders have to adapt and not crash into each other.
Speed limits are there for a reason. Speeders love to say shit like “they’re outdated”, but this is also wrong, they are up to date with vehicles on the road.
Drive. By. The. Damn. Limit. Those who installed them are more informed than you about risks and dangers on this track, and no, your car brakes are not as good as you think they are (and also there’s likely someone behind you with worse ones).
Nah. Drive by the flow of traffic.
Unobservant people who are “following the rule” in dynamic situations usually create more danger than people adapting to the situation.
Especially when they get all the way in the left lane to drive 65mph while others are passing them on the right.
The danger is created in the first place by normalization of speeding.
I am aware that, technically, if I’d drive by traffic at any given time, accidents will be less likely. But this danger of variable speed is not created by me moving too slow, it’s because of others moving too fast, because speeding is normalized in the first place, which introduces the problem that wouldn’t otherwise be there. The lane speed should be within bounds of speed limit, the rest is not and should never be my problem or fault.
Now, don’t get me wrong, if my actions can prevent an actually imminent accident (such as speeding up to let someone return to lane before reverse traffic traps them) - of course I will. But for regular driving, I strictly adhere to the rules and regulations. If this gets someone who breaks the rules in an accident - that’s on them, maybe it’ll teach them a lesson.
The “normalization of speeding” is because human beings didn’t evolve to travel at the speeds available to anyone with a driver’s license. In other words, you’re asking for a revision of human nature, which is simply not a practical solution. What would be practical is a system of public transportation that makes individual cars moot, or at least less of an intrinsic necessity, but in the US, there are moneyed interests who will fanatically push back on any alternate options. Car makers, insurance companies, bars and restaurants, and even the “healthcare” industry all profit from people having to own a car and use said car to navigate living in this country. You’d need to provide a broad and low-cost alternative, while dismantling those entrenched interests to make a new paradigm stick.
So, in the meantime, it sounds like your driving habits are stick-in-the-mud and you likely create impediments to the flow of traffic, as others adapt around your unwillingness to modify behaviors to the situation. The fact that you see yourself as some kind of shining example of driving purity and hope that other drivers get into an accident as some weird punitive recourse is really troubling. Maybe you should talk to a professional about your moralistic judgementalism and anger issues.
No, I’m asking drivers to follow the rules designed to make driving safer, which is something a human is fully capable to do - and does whenever repercussions appear, like near the speed cams. If controlling that means installing speed cams at every corner, I’m all in. As long as it’s not that, we have what we have to enforce those limits.
I also fully support and actively use public transportation and only engage in driving when necessary (which is actually quite little).
And please, do not jump to the conclusion about someone’s mental health based on a comment on the Internet, this is rude and likely inaccurate. All I strongly state there is that it is insane to blame someone who follows the rules on the road instead of those who routinely break them out of habit and convenience.
Hmm. Well, I can explain it to you, but I can’t comprehend it for you.
You believe that you are right, and can’t, or won’t consider that you could be applying an overly rigid perspective to a problem that requires a great deal of flexibility. Moreover, you seem fixated on punishing those who “break rules.” That’s simply not a very effective way to affect change across human society.
Best of luck to you.
Technically speaking, speed limits are set for worst conditions.
As in very rainy, very windy, poor visibility, etc.
So no, in your day to day life in ideal conditions — you do not need to follow the speed limit. Am I saying go double the speed limit? No. 10 miles above the speed limit is fine, though.
That being said, people who tailgate others can go fuck themselves. There’s never a good reason to be so close behind another car.
For worst conditions, it’s a common recommendation to slow down even further.
You do not want to drive by the limit when the road is slippery, the side wind blows your car away, and visibility is 10 feet.
The closer you get the slower I drive
Edit: in the right lane. I ain’t no fucking hammer lane cruiser
Same. I just take the cruise control down slowly until they back off. If they get off my ass, we can go back to the speed limit.
I love this.
And if they start honking and flashing their lights to pressure you?
Clearly they are warning you of danger. Best drive extra vigilant, which might imply driving slower :P
Well they’re obviously letting me know that my windshield is dirty, so I fire up the washers. So considerate!
I ignore them and pick my nose when they angrily pass. Keeps me from engaging.
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If you know, you know
Please explain 💀
The “odɿυT” sticker on the front of the car is written in mirror writing, so that when you’re one the Autobahn and somebody pulls up behind you with their BMW 2002 Turbo you’ll be able to read “Turbo” in your mirror and free the way for them
They got sued because of that by the german state btw
I was driving a rental when I visited the Czech Republic. On the highways there the speed limit was about 70 mph (whatever that is in kilometers), but Germans frequently use the Czech Republic as a shortcut to Austria and forget (or don’t care) that they’re not on the Autobahn any more. There were many times when I would glance in the rearview and see empty road behind me for five miles or so, then seconds later I’d glance again and see the grille of a BMW right behind me with headlights flashing even though I was already in the right lane. Truly scary shit.
Haha that is neat
I second this. This is a BMW turbo but I don’t understand the context
Clean ur windows
I’ve had people tailgate me in the right lane for miles before deciding to pass, even with a completely open left lane. And it’s usually a pickup.
most people are brain dead cruise control zombies. i stay as far away from all cars on the highway as possible.
… there’s nothing wrong with cruise control
no there isn;t. there’s a problem with zombie drivers though
Why not just pull into the empty left lane and have them pass on the right? One less thing for you to think about.
Because the safest thing for everyone is to drive predictably, and that means following the rules and you don’t pass in the right lane.
you don’t pass in the right lane
Unless you’re in Houston, where you often get passed on the right even when you’re in the right-most lane.
Being able to drive safely also means being able to prioritize. It’s not to anyone’s benefit to be so blinded by the rules that you’d drive into a brick wall if one appeared in the road.
Spineless drivers are nearly as dangerous as arrogant drivers.
Who said anything about being spineless.
FYI, everyone who drives near you hates you.
Definitely not true. I drove a cab for 12 years, it went great. I don’t tailgate, I don’t get in people’s way, and I don’t drive like a feckless confused imbicile.
I did this recently, scared the shit out of them and they quickly found a spot to turn off and park. I think they thought I was trying to do some kind of pit maneuver to get behind them or something, when I just wanted them off my ass.
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Easy fix, go 10 mph under. If they are still a dick, keep slowing down
I’ve had a much easier life following a super easy rule for highways:
Left lane: Passing/Fast
Middle lane: Cruising
Right lane: Exit/Slow
If I’m in the left lane doing 110 MPH and there’s a pickup truck right on my ass, I’ll signal and go middle lane and just cruise for a bit.
9 times out of 10, I’ll see that exact same pickup or other car on the right shoulder with a state trooper writing him up.
It’s happened so often in my life, it’s made me believe in “instant karma”. Just let them pass.
I try to drive in the rightmost lane where I can maintain my desired speed without needing to weave back and fourth, unless someone is coming up behind me, in which case I’ll reduce my threshold for moving to the right to let them by, unless they are driving aggressively enough that I think there’s a high chance they’ll pass on the right after I’ve passed someone but before I’m far enough ahead of whoever I just passed to move over.
Oh one more exception for if the right lane is clear but there’s an onramp with cars, I’ll leave them the right lane to merge into and move over once I’ve passed them. I’ll also avoid cruising in front of semis if I can.
“Never be the fastest car on the highway” is a pretty good rule for avoiding state troopers.
What catches the trooper’s eye and gets you pulled over is doing all those lane changes if you want to be the fastest. That’s what is unsafe. Otherwise, they aren’t too concerned about the actual speed as long as the traffic is flowing smoothly.
This strongly depends on both the area and the individual officers. And sometimes your skin colour, unfortunately. Also the condition of your vehicle, like a new porsche might be allowed to get away with a higher speed than a rust-bucket (or, on the other hand, that new porsche might attract more attention and/or envy).
“Or the stolen vehicle with no plates and a trail of illicit drug smoke, dragging a gas station hose, shooting a firearm out the bloody windows, while your hostage is screaming.”
But that’s not as concise.
Nah, you still good bro as long as you are moving smoothly with the traffic.
I’ve been following this advice myself, but maybe with a bit of an ulterior motive… Being the second fastest car on the road, maybe a mile or two back from the fastest car on the road means they get pulled over and I don’t.
(On a more serious note, I get my speed fix on the race track now. I’ve matured enough to realize speeding on public roads isn’t worth the risks, especially when there’s others on the road that could be affected)
Right lane is for cruising.
Any lanes to the left are for overtaking, and you move back to the right after passing.
Of course it depends on how heavy the traffic is, but if you’re not willing to move faster than the cars on your right, CHANGE LANES.
People driving in the middle lane when there’s nobody on the right are a pet peeve of mine.
Edit: pasting this below, since people seem to be unaware of the actual rules.
Edit2: This is UK, flip left with right for almost every other country.
The highway code, the official rules for road use in the UK, reads:
(General Rules, 160) “keep to the left, unless road signs or markings indicate otherwise. The exceptions are when you want to overtake, turn right or pass parked vehicles or pedestrians in the road”
(Motorway lane disciple, rule 264): “Keep in the left lane unless overtaking. If you are overtaking, you should return to the left lane when it is safe to do so (see also Rules 267 and 268).”
Many other EU countries have the same rules. I wouldn’t know about America.
So I was taught that undertaking is technically not illegal but it’s bad practice, hogging the overtake lanes when there’s nobody on your left is the actual offence. (UK before anyone driving on the incorrect side says anything). But yeah there’s still a reasonable speed to keep at on main roads in most conditions.
I don’t know about associated punishments, but the highway code is clear.
Rule 267: […]Overtake only on the right.
Rule 268: Do not overtake on the left or move to a lane on your left to overtake.
It goes on to clarify that, in heavy traffic, the left lane could be moving faster and that keeping up with the flow is OK.
Don’t believe this is true. In scenarios where there are three or more lanes, the middle lane is used for cruising. The right-most lane is for entering/exiting traffic.
https://www.drivesafeonline.org/traffic-school/highway-safety-and-lane-discipline/
The laws are different for the US, where middle lane hogging is generally not illegal. However, all states stipulate that you must keep in the right lane unless overtaking, which is similar in spirit. Annoyingly, all but Florida then add an exception to this rule for highways with three lanes or more.
Middle lane hogging is mainly outlawed in the UK, who have correctly recognised it as being incredibly dangerous and a curse of congestion by preventing other people from overtaking.
Who, what, why: What’s wrong with middle-lane hogging? - BBC News - https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-2278498
KEEP RIGHT TRAFFIC LAWS IN ALL 50 STATES CHART (00214405).DOC - SLOWER-TRAFFIC-KEEP-RIGHT.pdf - https://www.mwl-law.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/SLOWER-TRAFFIC-KEEP-RIGHT.pdf
The highway code, the official rules for road use in the UK, reads:
(General Rules, 160) “keep to the left, unless road signs or markings indicate otherwise. The exceptions are when you want to overtake, turn right or pass parked vehicles or pedestrians in the road”
(Motorway lane disciple, rule 264): “Keep in the left lane unless overtaking. If you are overtaking, you should return to the left lane when it is safe to do so (see also Rules 267 and 268).”
Many other EU countries have the same rules. I wouldn’t know about America.
Yes, these situations exist in Europe too, where we have a “drive in the rightmost lane”-law. For example the ring of Antwerpen has the rightmost lane almost exclusively reserved for on and off ramping. It’s a 4 lane highway, if I remember correctly.
I find that people driving in the middle when the right is clear are often just anticipating an upcoming on/off ramp where they know that things can get bunched up if there are cars that don’t need to be there.
I cruise in the middle lane because the right lane is full of idiots with cars more powerful than mine but somehow going 10 under the speed limit.
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Any lanes to the left are for overtaking, and you move back to the right after passing.
A bit stupid to move back if nobody is behind you tbh. Needless lane changes.
You know what’s a needless lane change? When I come behind you and have to cross 2 lanes to overtake you, because you’re totally zoned out and never saw me coming, and then I have to move back 2 lanes again instead of 1.
MOVE RIGHT jackass. If changing lanes on an empty highway is too challenging for you, maybe you shouldn’t be driving on one.
It’s not challenging, needlessly (as in nobody is behind you trying to go faster) is just that, unnecessary. The whole point is that you move over if someone is behind you.
People swinging back and forth to left and right even though there’s nobody behind them on the left most lane just causes a hazard for others without any benefit. I think it’s just their mind going “well someone said it’s for overtaking only so I must move back to the right” without really thinking it through.
And good drivers pay attention to stuff happening around them. If you as a rule are zoning out, I have bad news for you lol
This is how lanes should be driven in. If I’m passing someone in the left, and I see someone screaming up behind me, I’ll usually try and speed up, get over to clear the lane, and then resume where I was at. I don’t cut anyone off, ideally the person passing doesn’t catch me before I get over, and life goes on with minimal interruptions.
Too many people go on autopilot and are completely unaware of other traffic around them. I’m consistently watching mirrors, traffic around me, and for animals deciding to cross the the road. It’s not no work, but it’s where everyone should be at when driving.
Let them be the cop bait.
This is assuming the person isn’t tailgating you in driving lane refusing to pass you, because that happens constantly…
What highways are there with a 100mph+ speed limit? I’d love to visit.
I thought the highest in the US was 80mph, which means at least 30mph over. I thought you could start getting your vehicle impounded and get reckless driving charges at that point. It’s a little more than common speedingI have seen an 85 mph speed limit on a 2-lane highway in Oklahoma. It was cool because I was in a fast car and I could go as fast as I wanted to (about 90).
Doing the speed limit while cruising in the middle lane is the proper way to travel in the United States, or just going with the flow of traffic. Being predictable is safe.
If the road you’re on has a 80 MPH speed limit however, and people are doing 90-100 in the left lane (+10-20) it is exceedingly difficult to pass someone without temporarily going high speeds yourself.
You do not need to be passing people if they’re already going 100mph…
But for real, if someone is tailgating you at speed the right move really is to ease down slowly. Because if you have to stop quickly at speed, they’re going to catastrophically rear end you. Slowing down steadily lowers the stakes and may induce them to pass you and harass someone else.
That’s my two lane strategy. I use cruise everywhere I go, and I consistently go a little over the speed limit, usually about 10% of the posted amount. That’s not enough for some people and they tailgate. I will immediately set my cruise to the speed limit, and if they don’t back off, I will gradually get slower and slower. I don’t break check, but if there is a hill, I will ride the brakes all the way down as to not accidentally exceed the speed limit.
That’s just plain rude
No it’s not. It’s safety conscious to keep space in front of you because you will need to reduce speed at a slower rate so the asshat behind you doesn’t slam into the back of you.
It’s literally safer than someone on your bumper going 80 mph (as long as you’re not in the fast lane).
That’s heavily dependent on context. Oftentimes each person commenting in these threads has a different situation in their mind.
If they’re on your ass on a multi-lane highway and there’s plenty of space for them to pass you AND you’re in the designated lane for slow traffic (eg, right-most lane in the US) then it’s not rude at all. Encourage them to get off your ass and in the meantime, you’re giving both of you more time to react in an emergency.
If you’re on a two-lane road (ie, one lane per direction) I get wanting to slow down below the speed limit, but really, you don’t know whether that person has a friend bleeding out next to them while trying to get to a hospital, or maybe they are at the boiling point for a road-rage incident with a gun in the glovebox. I maintain a safe speed and if I get to a passing zone, I make a point to slow down for them to make an easier pass.
Rude, safe, who’s to say.
Easy fix, move over and let them by.
Lemme just pull into this lane of oncoming traffic real quick
Assumed highway. Many people think they’re the speed police. “I’m going 10mph over, that’s good enough for everyone.”
While the actual speed police said you are already over the limit
god I don’t understand speeding
Exactly… I’m breaking the law by 10mph so that’s good enough for everyone. This other guy that wants to break it by 15mph is a total asshole.
You’re not an asshole for going faster, you’re an asshole for tailgating
Situational awareness is key.
10 over on left lane (right for UK) while the other one is free? You’re the entitled speed police asshole. He’s the dumb tailgating idiot.
10 over the other way around? You’re doing nothing wrong. He’s still the dumb tailgating idiot.
I don’t condone assholery on the road, but it’s still my license and my fine if I’m speeding up for a tailgater. So if the right lane has slow traffic and I’m overtaking on the left, I’ll stick to whatever speed on or above the limit that I consider safe. Unless the tailgater has blue lights flashing, I’m not obliged to do a damn thing.
10 over the other way around? You’re doing nothing wrong.
Yeah you are, you’re endangering yourself and those around you by traveling at an unsafe speed.
Sure. But if you have no one in front of you, and a line of people behind you, you’re the asshole, even if you’re going 10 over. Move over and let them by.
You sound like that asshole
No, I just move over and get on with my life instead of rage that someone behind me wants to get somewhere faster.
You do understand the concept of a speed limit, right?
The implication is that there is someone in the right lane that they are passing. Without running that person off the road, getting over has to wait until the pass is complete. Tailgating that person isn’t going to make that faster, just more dangerous, and if you’re doing it to me I will slow down, so it will also take longer.
Don’t drive like an entitled cunt, and these issues just magically don’t happen to you. I’ve never tailgated someone and had to deal with them slowing down, brake checking, or literally anything else, because I don’t tailgate people like an asshole.
This is true as long as they’re not actively passing traffic to the right (assuming 2 lane highway). If they are driving in traffic and actively passing cars on the right then anybody behind should not be tailgating.
no.
So you’re the tailgating truck driver in this meme?
No, I’m the person that lets them pass because I don’t presume to know why they’re in such a rush. Maybe pregnant wife or medical emergency. Or maybe just a dick… don’t know. Don’t care. I’m not the speed police.
Not sure why all the down votes. Most states it’s the law the left lane is passing only.
Lol, no, we don’t reward selfish pricks
The problem isn’t that you are rewarding anyone anything. You are causing traffic and safety hazards if you are forcing someone to pass on right when it’s the law in most states to use the left lane as passing only.
You are causing traffic and safety hazards
Driving a consistent speed on cruise control isn’t doing that, dumbass, it’s the guy riding your ass and trying to speed who’s made a hazard
forcing someone to pass on right
Show me the gun I’m using to threaten them into this, or explain how I make their wheels change direction
Also: one lane roads exist & are way more common than multi lane roads for this kind of incident
nobody forces someone to do anything. they CHOOSE to pass illegally in addition to speeding illegally.
i’ll eventually move over when it is safe.
and when you react during this period like a douche and roof your car from behaving like a child, guess who’s going to show up at your mva? this guy, dressed like the first responder I am. guess who’s going to remind you I have dashcam footage of your overreaction and behavior?
Being an undeputized speed police sounds more selfish to me. I control everyone’s speed. I am god.
If I’m going at or above the speed limit then one can pass if that’s not fast enough. If they can’t pass for whatever reason: that’s their problem, not mine
I control everyone’s speed. I am god.
- Just about every truck owner who pulls the above mentioned shit.Bonus points for lifted, extra big wheels, and whatever other shit country music suckered them into buying. Meanwhile their truck bed has no scratches, or is covered, and the truck itself only has seen the highway. They don’t own a truck - they own a clowned up SUV and a testosterone deficiency.
So your solution to someone tailgating you while in the driving lane is to pull over into the passing lane and slow down to let them pass? Real genius…
No reason to move over if you are already at the speed limit. If you are over you should slow down.
There’s a reason for those “slower traffic move right” signs. People drive at different speeds - if the people behind want to go faster than the people in front, it’s their responsibility to let them pass, so long as there’s a safe space in another lane to do so.
Yes yes there are, but they aren’t there to appease criminals who can’t follow the rules.
Rules for thee but not for me!
There are minimum speeds laws as well, and those roads are where the slower traffic move right signs are. You are extremely unlikely to find them in city and not on highways.
They are designed because of mainly 3 types of people on the road.
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traffic that is too heavily loaded to accelerate quickly enough to maintain speed due to dynamic road conditions. Typically large commercial transport and vehicles towing or hauling something.
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Older vintage/classic/non-passenger vehicles that can’t or shouldn’t be traveling at the speed limit, but ARE still legal to drive on those roads
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Vehicles experienced pronlems but are still drivable.
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We don’t have those here, going over the speed limit is illegal and if caught a few times you are banned from driving
Where that? I would love if more people had their licenses revoked in my area
Every time the circlejerk assumes the worst out of comments like these.
Had one doing that while I was going the same speed as the 10 cars in front of me on the highway during traffic time. He was flashing his lights and when there was an opening on my right he changed lane and then I saw… The guy was in a full size truck and was pulling a 20’ trailer and was trying to pass me on the right and squeeze between me and the car in front of me so he would have been stuck behind them instead. I didn’t give him enough space, he got back behind me even more angry than before and 3km later reached his exit so he wouldn’t have saved a single second if I had let him through.
It’s crazy to me how many pickup trucks with trailers drive so recklessly, it’s like they don’t know they are hitching something. I see other cars being accommodating to them by slowing down more than usual to let them merge in.
I’ve seen one stuck sideways on the highway with his trailer flipped on its side and another driving in the middle of the night in the fog without any working lights on the trailer… Maybe they should require an exam before you can tow…
Was driving on the highway and it was packed. It wasn’t stop go, but we were under the speed limit with cars lined up as far as you can see.
I look in my review and I can’t even see the headlights of the guy behind me over my bumper. (I’m in a sedan, not a high bumper by a long shot). This is a dangerous situation so I ease off the gas and move over as soon as I get a chance.
This guy then proceeds to pass me, move in front of me, and slow down. I’m sorry, I thought you were in a rush considering how much you were riding my ass, but looks like you have plenty of time to be an asshole.
Next gap in the left lane and I pull over and accelerate, he doesn’t have room to get in front of me, and doesn’t have room to get behind me again due to all the cars.I have no idea how long he had to wait to get back into the left lane, but for someone so impatient he was very effective at wasting his own time.
I’m a school bus driver and I love to be tailgated … because I can’t even see a fucking car when it does this. I don’t know what these dipshits imagine they’re accomplishing.
If you are on any U.S. highway, there is always someone who thinks the ideal speed limit is 10 mph faster than whatever the speed of traffic is in the left lane. They will tailgate you until you change lanes to let them pass, causing everyone in the lane to the right to adjust to the change in traffic, and then repeat the process for every car in front of them, or they will attempt to pass you on the right, creating dangerous traffic situations. Best of all, this person genuinely believes that, “If everyone drove like me, there would be no traffic.”
They don’t care about how quick they arrive (otherwhise they wouldn’t speed up to a redlight), they just wanna feel fast, in this case by driving faster than everyone else
Exactly. I just drove from New York to Boston, and no matter what the speed was, I’d run into a tailgater every 30 minutes. I’d be cruising at 80 to 85 mph, keeping a minimum safe distance from the guy in front of me, there’d be 5 cars in front of me doing the exact same thing, but some dick (usually driving an oversized pickup) would decide that wasn’t good enough. He’d tailgate until I found an opportunity to drop into the middle lane, let him pass, then I get back into the
rightleft lane and watch him do the same thing to the guy in front of me. It’s as if he thinks he’s gonna reach the, “front,” and then their won’t be any traffic.Did you get the lanes mixed up, or are you saying you’re moving into the faster lane to let them pass you on the right? Passing on the right may not be illegal in the US, but it’s definitely less safe and it’s illegal in parts of Europe. I would never move left to let someone pass, if they can’t figure out how to go around on their own, that’s their problem.
No, I’m saying I would be in the passing lane, going faster than the speed of traffic, then I’d get tailgated by someone who decided the flow of traffic in the passing lane was too slow and change lanes so they could pass, just to watch them do the same thing to the car that was just ahead of me. I think if I edit this sentence it would be more clear:
He’d tailgate until I found an opportunity to drop into the middle lane, let him pass, then [I would] get back into right lane and watch him do the same thing to the guy in front of me.
I’m confused about this part:
back into right lane
This implies you started in the right (non-passing) lane and moved out of it to let them pass. Unless you’re from a country that drives on the left, in which case sorry for the confusion.
Oh, lol, yes, I meant left lane. That was a typo. I made twice.
Just to confirm, does this imply you just drive in the left lane like normal without activley passing?
Why is this passive aggressive “hurr durr found the left lane camper” comment on every literally post about left lane tailgaters?
Have you literally never driven in any Metropolitan area ever? I see it daily… lines 10+ cars deep of traffic maybe a single carlength apart, all doing 85 in the left lane, constantly passing middle lane traffic, as if that’s somehow going to make the 1/2 mile of traffic ahead of them go faster.
The number of aggressive tailgaters I see during my commute easily outweighs the left lane campers by 10:1
I’m in one of the biggest Metropolitan areas in the US and I see entirely the opposite. 50x the amount of slow left lane drivers, going the same speed as the car to their right, blocking all cars going the appropriate speed, than tailgaters.
I agree the no space in the left lane is crazy though. More often than tailgaters, when I’m activley passing in the left lane, and a car from the right lane cuts me off and continues to go the same speed they were in the other lane, making me have to break on the freeway (which is another thing you should avoid whenever possible, and just let off on the gas. You’re a multi-ton chuck of metal going 60+ mph, you’ll slow down quick by just not accelerating).
If you are in the left lane, and aren’t actively passing someone, you are in the wrong and in most highways, breaking the law. Left lane campers are the reason people have to pass on the right dangerously, and if they did get to the right like they should and drive predictably, then it wouldn’t cause a cluster in the right lane traffic, because it is the expectation.
Not defending tailgaters, just shitting on left lane campers.
I get that, but these comments strongly imply two things that are generally false:
-The main reason that tailgating happens is because someone is camping in the left lane, and
-Tailgating is an appropriate response to someone camping in the left lane.
Nobody, literally nobody, ever defends left lane campers, but for some reason the immediate reaction to calling out tailgaters for their dangerous driving is to strawman the caller-outer as a left lane camper.
-the main reason tailgating happens is people driving slow in the left lane. Not the only reason, but the main one.
-tailgating is NOT an appropriate response, but its not about who is in the right, when the one that can fix it for both parties is the one going slower and not passing. They have the power to get back over a lane (which they should be anyway if not passing), and immediately eliminate the issue, and everyone goes on their way. The tailgater can’t do that.
Also, I’m not sure what you experience is, but I see 50x the amount of people driving slow in the left lane than I see people tailgating.
That’s fair. I agree, tailgating is inexcusable. Both left lane campers and tailgaters suck, tailgating adds another level of danger, so they are worse for sure.
Unfortunately, I have family members that defend left lane driving. The dog shit argument is that if a deer were to jump in the road, there would be more time to react from the left. The false implication is that deer can’t come from the otherside, which I have a buddy who hit a deer that came from the median, so anecdotally, that’s bs. They both say that they get over when someone is coming, but that is also a shit statement, because I know that it’s not true 100% of the time, and the person coming up doesn’t know if they’re going to move, so they are put in a position of unpredictability.
It’s like none of these people have taken road trips before. Depending on traffic density, you can be passing cars continuously for hours on a 4-lane highway (2 each direction). If there’s room to move to the right without slowing down, then yes, move over and cruise on the right lane. You don’t need to weave in and out of the passing lane every single car you pass. If you can’t stay in the right lane longer than 30 seconds before needing to pass again, it’s really not worth switching unless there’s someone behind you going even faster.
Yeah, I literally said, “10 mph faster than whatever the speed of traffic is in the left lane,” and still got a, “tHe PaSsInG LaNe iS FoR PAsSInG,” reply. Unless you validate the idea that the left lane allows you to drive as fast as you want under any circumstances, someone will accuse you of being a left-lane camper.
You also said people were trying to pass on the right. If there is enough room for them to pass on the right then there is enough room for you to move over and let them pass.
No, I said, “they will attempt to pass you on the right, creating dangerous traffic situations.” I’ve had to slam on my breaks because some idiot decided they were going to pass me on the right even though there were barely two car lengths worth of free space.
Also, I’m describing a hypothetical situation that happens frequently on U.S. highways; I’m not describing a specific situation that happened, and I’m saying what you should always do in every situation. Often times, pulling into the middle lane and letting the asshole pass you is best. If traffic in the middle lane is too dense, changing speeds/lanes to get dangerous close to two other cars or into the blind spot of a tractor trailer is worse than being tailgated for a while. In any case, how you handle the asshole doesn’t change the fact that they are using the left lane inappropriately.
found the left lane camper
I asked for that >.<
you set it up so well it seemed rude not to knock it down 😘
there is always someone who thinks the ideal speed limit is 10 mph faster than whatever the speed of traffic is in the left lane.
No, I very specifically called out people who want to drive faster than what the speed traffic is in the passing lane. How you think that implies going slower than the middle lane is beyond me.
Because you mention that you need to make other drivers slow down when changing into the right lane. If you are actively passing, when you finish passing you merge back into the lane to your right when you get to the gap you were aiming for, thus not needing to make anyone slow down. If you’re passing, you should have a plan of when you’re done passing, even when sometimes that gap shifts when cars change, and then you’re looking for a new gap.
Yeah, you should always wait until there’s a safe amount of space to change lanes, but realistically, you’re very rarely going to find a gap that has enough space to merge in with safe follow distance behind and in front of you (assuming 55-60 mph speed limit, that would be 100 feet plus the length of your car). You’ll probably find a gap with a little extra room, maybe 60 or so feet, match speed and merge with about 30 feet in front of you, then drop speed for a little bit until you hit 50 feet. The car behind you will do the same, and so on.
That happens all the time on the highway and it’s not a big deal, but if some asshole is forcing cars to do that every 2 minutes because they’re tailgating the left lane, that’s gonna start slowing down the middle lane. It’s also gonna cause people to start doing stupid shit like following to closely or jumping into the left lane at the earliest opportunity, even if there isn’t enough room to do that safely.
Are you implying that you break the speed limit just to pass people?
Absolutely. If you’re scared to do so when appropriate, you shouldn’t be on the road.
Why we need actual public transit so we don’t have to be concerned about this.
So you’re making an arbitrary value judgment about which legal violations are acceptable and which aren’t. That’s fine to do, for yourself. But you’re applying them onto others.
It would be one thing to debate someone about when it is and isn’t OK to break the law, but you’re not doing that. You’re just implying that someone else is wrong because they don’t share the exact same illegalist framework as you. And you’re resting your entire point upon that supposition.
I dunno bud, if you’re OK with people speeding to pass, maybe relax about people doing the speed limit in the left lane instead of insisting that it’s your way or the highway. Pun intended.
Lol the jumps in logic you make should be nominated for an award. My original comment was one sentence long and the follow up kike three more, how do you know what “framework” I operate in lmao. The implications you make somehow about legality being a measure of contention and the crux of my argument is just wrong on its face.
If you’re going slow in the left lane and blocking others, you’re affecting others negatively direcly for no benefit to yourself. If you could get over a lane, continue going the speed you desired but not be blocking others wanting to go your speed and don’t, you’re just a dick. We can move in ways that allow others to move in theirs without the “I’m first, its my way” mentality. The law has nothing to do with it.
Not to mention I didn’t assume thats what was happening, and asked OP to confirm before I went on with my point. Something I suggest doing before assuming someone’s “framework”.
Bruh, chill.
Are you a cop?
I’m literally parodying the policing tone of the user I was replying to.
Totally right, considering there is traffic in front of you. If there’s only one car in the left lane however they should still move over to the right for a faster driver behind, even if they’re already going 30+ over the limit.
the replies to you are merely conflating “speed of traffic” with “speed limit of traffic”, so because your statement was (wrongly) misinterpreted, you are now replying to each comment crying about “I’m being victimized by hurr durr left lane camper accusations” calm down buddy
Time to engage cruise control on exactly the speed limit.
The one thing that I really care about is consistency. If you want to do 60 in a 65 on the hwy, and you’re in the right lane, that’s fine. What I hate more than most things is when you pass me doing 75 in a half mile, and then I pass you again after that. I hate that so much, I just want consistency and predictability.
I used to have a longish commute on the highway and would use cruise control the entire way. It’s bizarre how often I’d encounter some that we would pass each other 3 times because they can’t decide what speed that want to go at. My speed hasn’t changed.
Couldn’t agree more. Consistency and predictably; I wish more people would think - and drive - like that.
that’s just how i drive normally, makes life very easy. only costs a couple minutes.
I do +5, just below fine limit. Haven’t had one in years.
On most cars I’ve used that would mean a real speed of around 4-5 km/h under the actual limit.
You bet your sweet ass if youre driving like a dick, im slowing down. Flash your light? I flash the little red ones on the back of my car to let you know that i saw you. Every time your lights come on, so do mine!
