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    I’m not very surprised that a teacher raped a student. I AM surprised (and glad) that she was dumb enough to talk about it TO ANOTHER TEACHER.

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        They’re not lawyers, though… they’re reporters.

        They’re just reporting what the prosecutors accused the person of and if the prosecutor didn’t use the term “statutory rape” then the reporters probably shouldn’t either.

        They don’t want to get the reporting wrong if they aren’t experts on the subject and even more so the don’t want to expose themselves to lawsuits if they do get the reporting wrong.

        I really don’t think the reporters are trying to minimize the heinousness of the crime (at least not in this case). It looks more like they are just being conservative in what they state.

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      Because pedophilia still exists.

      And a 16 year old boy will say yes to pretty much anything sexual, hence why this woman exploited a minor nah, not sugar coating. This woman used a position of authority to rape a child.

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        Also. The teacher profession is all but dead in America. A lot of people that would be bad for students get weeded out through years of education and training. Most school districts are luck if they have more than 50% of their teachers educated/trained. The rest are individuals who could pass a background check. Poor areas, are under 30%. Just because someone can pass a background check doesn’t mean they should be around minors. But schools have no other option.

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          Heh, I applied for a substitute position a little while ago.

          Called back. I’m a MMJ patient, and only have a high school diploma, and no teaching skills or experience.

          They were fine with that. Obviously, don’t bring drugs on campus, but if its just residual in my system its fine with them.

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            My degree is in physical education K-12. When I graduate I didn’t go right into education. When I told one of my professors she cried full on tears. That’s how bad it is.

            I returned to education ~3 years. It’s scary. And I’m in a “wealthy” state. Our school’s are hanging on by a thread even with record low enrollments due to people not having children. (the only schools that were thriving were the ones with massive migrant populations.)

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              I spent a year working at an elementary school, in an IT capacity.

              I was at a fairly wealthy district, but Texas “Robin Hood Laws” distributed a lot of their taxable wealth to poorer districts and such.

              That being said, all the kids that went there for the most part had rich parents.

              So the stay at home moms always organized fund raisers. Bake sales, that kinda crap.

              And the rich kids, or any parents who stopped in, bought treats.

              I mean, it worked… but not without a lot of disposable income at home.

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    This is actually legal in many countries.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent_by_country

    In USA it’s legal in many states that have 16 years as the legal age of consent: Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, North Carolina, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, West Virginia, Puerto Rico.

    In many more states including Michigan it is 16 unless restricted by authority, which would have made it legal if she wasn’t his teacher or another kind of person of authority to him.

    So why are people so quick to call this rape? Obviously it’s unprofessional as a teacher. But the moral age limit is definitely not as clear cut as some here seems to think.

    So IMO this is not really newsworthy, She will probably be punished by the law, and lose her job, but this is not a huge scandal of pedophilia as some seems to liken it to. She abused a position of trust, and that’s about it.

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      Because it’s the fact that she’s the teacher. A position of authority. It’s why a cop cannot have sex with someone who they pulled over, or why a psychiatrist cannot date their client.

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      Abusing a position of trust is a bigger deal than it seems. Being in a position of power means there was an unspoken element of coercion in the relationship.

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        No not really, only defined so legally in Michigan because rules are stricter than the 14+1 states I listed above. Had it been 1 of those states it would have been perfectly legal.

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            This ain’t his first Internet argument, maybe? That’s why I know it, anyway.

            Knock it off with your bad-faith insinuations.

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              It’s weird to immediately be jumping to the defense of the teacher. This should not be hard to understand. A 26 year old woman raped a 16 year old. It’s very simple. That’s wrong, and in my humble opinion, worthy of punishment.

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            I have known about the age of consent since I was around that age myself, because we were informed about it in sex education in school.

            If you don’t know these things, it’s because your school sucks, or maybe because you are stupid, or maybe you are not old enough?
            Admittedly I didn’t know the difference in age in American states, because I’m in Europe, but it was extremely easy to find the page on Wikipedia, that has everything laid out very clearly.

            But thanks for the implication that it should somehow be suspicious to know basic facts. You must be very special, since you suspect people for knowing things!

            Edit PS:

            It would also have been legal in my own country, but of course the teacher would be fired.

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              Your European school’s curriculum went over every single US state’s age of consent?

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              In this case, age of consent is mostly irrelevant. A 26 year old fucking a 16 year old is bad, legality is unimportant. The fact that she’s been charged, means that it’s probably not legal. How about we just say “wow, that bitch raped a child”, instead of being pedantic.

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                I agree that age difference should be a factor, and as you can see from the Wikipedia page I linked above, there are countries that have additional limits based on age difference.

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                  Legality doesn’t matter to me. This is morally wrong. The age difference is wrong. The abuse of trust and authority is wrong. And linking a wikipedia page to where this would and wouldn’t be legally okay, is a little weird. A 30 year old woman fucking her 50 year old boss is wrong in a similar way, but not necessarily illegal.

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      Um… “Abused a position of trust” ≠ rape? You might wanna check the definition, friend. 😅😶

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        There are different kinds of abuse of position of trust, for instance if there is a threat or strong element of coercion, for instance promising promotion or threatening to fire someone. Then it is definitely rape.
        I see it more as a position of trust as in parents must be able to trust the school and the teachers.
        I don’t see the teacher promising better grades, hack I don’t even know if she was really his teacher?
        But personally I was never one to give in to authority, maybe it’s different for other teens that age?
        So maybe it was technically rape?

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          All due respect, but you seem to be confusing your awareness of the definition with the actual thing. Please do confirm for yourself what the details of this term are. 🙇🏼‍♂️✊🏼

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      Next, are you going to give us a lengthy explanation of the difference between “pedophile” and “ephebophile”?