Murder has been there since the beginning and making it illegal doesn’t seem to work. Should we just make legal? I think prostitution only plays into women being sexual objects for men.
What even was that persons comparison. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills sometimes. How are sex and murder even slightly related? I’m sure if I was 14 again I’d say something like “they give and take life, they are two sides of the same coin” or something like that that totally misses the fucking point.
^(I’m replying to you because last time replied to one of these people directly I was botted for like a week. )
I think they would like to make an argument that only makes sense in a Christian context (“we are all sinful, and we need to control those sins until we get true salvation, including sexual desire”), but they’re smart enough to know that won’t fly around here. So instead, they have to come up with a contorted argument that still doesn’t work, but they thought it wouldn’t be so easy to dismiss out of hand. They failed, but they tried.
That’s an excellent explanation. The only problem is the presence of those of us who see adult consensual human sexuality as morally neutral: we’re never gonna buy it, and wonder why anyone would. I’m always encouraged when I see that “sex is sin” shit downvoted as the needlessly painful, divisive and hate -encouraging bullshit it is.
If they truly believe in a Big God, and they believe that their Big God created human sexuality without the limits of expression they are convinced he wants placed on it by force, then they need to go pester their Big God for a Big Box to put it all back into because the rest of us just live here and they can seriously just fuck off with all that.
…if you go to Pahrump, NV where prostitution is legal, those women are independent contractors who set their own prices and can turn anyone that they don’t feel comfortable with serving away. Additionally, clients must use protection AND the women have police on a panic button if anyone gets out of hand.
Compare that to the women who prostitute themselves illegally and are subjected to all the dangers of rape, abuse, and murder.
I used to think like you. While I was researching a paper I was writing (arguing against the legalization of prostitution mind you), I ended up at a completely different conclusion. My conclusion did not support my thesis and I wrote it that way.
Open your mind a bit, and see that legalization protects EVERYONE (except prudes I guess)
Equal opportunities damn it, men can also be prostitutes! Didn’t you know that women also enjoy sex? It’s quite possible, believe it or not, that women might fancy some sexy time too.
There are many situations where sex is ethical and acceptable, it is simply when money becomes involved it magically becomes illegal. Private citizens have sex all the time and there’s nothing wrong with that. The same is not true for murder.
Unless I’m mistaken Murder means UNJUSTIFIED/UNLAWFUL homicide, so capital punishment cannot be murder. Neither can abortion (as long as it is legal I guess).
The killing of another person without justification or excuse, especially the crime of killing a person with malice aforethought or with recklessness manifesting extreme indifference to the value of human life."
I disagree. Society continues downhill.
Name a society that doesn’t have sex work. I’ll wait.
I’m sure all societies have prostitution. Just because something is widespread doesn’t make it right.
So what’s the solution? Thousands of years of making it illegal to some degree or another does not seem to work.
Or perhaps sex is deeply ingrained in the human psyche just as much as food is, and we shouldn’t consider that a problem?
Murder has been there since the beginning and making it illegal doesn’t seem to work. Should we just make legal? I think prostitution only plays into women being sexual objects for men.
Why are you comparing sex to murder? They are not on the same level at all.
What even was that persons comparison. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills sometimes. How are sex and murder even slightly related? I’m sure if I was 14 again I’d say something like “they give and take life, they are two sides of the same coin” or something like that that totally misses the fucking point.
^(I’m replying to you because last time replied to one of these people directly I was botted for like a week. )
I think they would like to make an argument that only makes sense in a Christian context (“we are all sinful, and we need to control those sins until we get true salvation, including sexual desire”), but they’re smart enough to know that won’t fly around here. So instead, they have to come up with a contorted argument that still doesn’t work, but they thought it wouldn’t be so easy to dismiss out of hand. They failed, but they tried.
Dang, I think you nailed it.
That’s an excellent explanation. The only problem is the presence of those of us who see adult consensual human sexuality as morally neutral: we’re never gonna buy it, and wonder why anyone would. I’m always encouraged when I see that “sex is sin” shit downvoted as the needlessly painful, divisive and hate -encouraging bullshit it is.
If they truly believe in a Big God, and they believe that their Big God created human sexuality without the limits of expression they are convinced he wants placed on it by force, then they need to go pester their Big God for a Big Box to put it all back into because the rest of us just live here and they can seriously just fuck off with all that.
…if you go to Pahrump, NV where prostitution is legal, those women are independent contractors who set their own prices and can turn anyone that they don’t feel comfortable with serving away. Additionally, clients must use protection AND the women have police on a panic button if anyone gets out of hand.
Compare that to the women who prostitute themselves illegally and are subjected to all the dangers of rape, abuse, and murder.
I used to think like you. While I was researching a paper I was writing (arguing against the legalization of prostitution mind you), I ended up at a completely different conclusion. My conclusion did not support my thesis and I wrote it that way.
Open your mind a bit, and see that legalization protects EVERYONE (except prudes I guess)
Wonder what the response time is on that button press? Would have thought they would employ bouncers on-site to handle that kind of thing.
Equal opportunities damn it, men can also be prostitutes! Didn’t you know that women also enjoy sex? It’s quite possible, believe it or not, that women might fancy some sexy time too.
There are many situations where sex is ethical and acceptable, it is simply when money becomes involved it magically becomes illegal. Private citizens have sex all the time and there’s nothing wrong with that. The same is not true for murder.
Murder is legal in several circumstances. Capital punishment is murder, for example.
Unless I’m mistaken Murder means UNJUSTIFIED/UNLAWFUL homicide, so capital punishment cannot be murder. Neither can abortion (as long as it is legal I guess).
The killing of another person without justification or excuse, especially the crime of killing a person with malice aforethought or with recklessness manifesting extreme indifference to the value of human life."
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/murder
Why’s it wrong?
Go peddling your bullshit to your church friends