profane language is the word ‘fuck’.
this is not yelling ‘fuck’ at the top of your lungs, but more like ‘aah, fuck’, meaning why do things have to be this complicated? or, why didn’t coworker X did his job as he was supposed to? Why is this documentation not in order?
Have you ever been fired over this? reprimanded at work?
I use ‘fuck’ a lot, not to intimidate anyone, but each time something bothers me, I could as well use ‘come on!!’ but ‘fuck’ comes to me more naturally.
If I get a written warning, is this a reason good enough to start looking for employment elsewhere?
To those of you not in America. Is it different where you are?
If I’d be in trouble fr saying fuck or swearing in general, I’d be in trouble. I’m a software developer and I have to deal with shit like Microsoft products (any of them) and my own code as well. Good hing i speak enough languages to curse with variety and make it harder for people to know what I say
If you’ve been told once and your job hangs in the balance, then perhaps that’s a sign of needlessly strict management, but if I just got a stern “please don’t swear in front of the public” I’d just stop swearing.
Fuck that, I’m finding another job.
A less-shitty one with fewer cocksuckers.
You’re god damn right!
Learn to code switch better. Profanity is almost never useful in a professional environment.
Never hurts either
It absolutely can lead to people treating you poorly, so yes it can hurt you if you do it.
Not using profanity doesn’t tend to cause the same issue, even in workplaces where its common.
I once described a rather sharp bit of cold weather to my boss by explaining that I was “shaking like a shitting dog”. He merely agreed.
It was a fucker that day, mind you.
Work in Germany, both in some retail jobs as a student, as well as a dev, sometimes in rather ‘fancy’ office environments. No one ever cared, though I only ever cursed about a situation, never a person.
At my company, they used to be a lot more tolerant of it, but we had exactly one person complain about excessive use of coarse language and then HR cracked the whip. They still don’t really care that much about using swear words when just interacting in person with other people, as long as it’s not bothering anybody else, but they heavily police our work chat to make sure that all of our messages are above the board in terms of professional conduct. Which makes sense, I can’t really argue against the logic that the work chat should be a professional setting where you can communicate your thoughts and feelings without having to resort to using profanity. Sometimes people have to be reminded to not use profane language, but they never call anybody out specifically, they just send out “reminder” messages whenever they see it and usually the person who is responsible knows not to keep it up or else there will be a more direct reprimand.
It would be hard for me to not sometimes utter “fuck” under my breath while I’m at work, but if my bosses were concerned about it, I would just start channeling that into more work-appropriate language.
i called in when my truck broke down and said “its all fucked up…er messed up i mean”
my boss said everybody laughed at the call in 😂
I got fired from a print shop job for saying “fuck you” back to the boss after he screamed it at me (and a dozen other people). Fuck him, though. Shop was completely closed 3 months later due to boss man’s ineptitude.
Otherwise, I swear like a fuckin’ sailor and never even got chewed out.
While working in fast food working as a manager I had a store manager that would cuss you out, but one thing I loved about her is I would cuss back and explain myself to which she’d be like “oh, that makes sense.”
“Fuck you: A romantic love story”
It’s a story about power dynamic, and sexual tension in the workplace. When a boss gets frustrated and yells fuck you at a room of employees, one man has the balls to yell fuck you back at him! Then…they start to passionately kiss. Just two straight men, getting caught up in the heat of the moment in a print shop break room.
Suddenly 30 employees were making out with each other. Clothes were coming off, and the man that started it all was now taking his boss from behind and making him his bitch!
…what?
I once got fired for changing the title of my personal homepage of our ticketing software to “Fuck this fucking shithole”. Bosses found out when they cloned my account for testing while I was on vacation.
In their defense, it was pretty stupid of me to do that. In my defense, fuck that fucking shithole.
If someone doesn’t understand the difference between swearing at and swearing around, that’s a shitty environment. If I say, “that was a shitty fucking outage” I am using some filler for emphasis so my mouth can catch up to my brain. If I say “you’re a fucking asshole” or “don’t be such a bitch” or “that’s fucking sexy” I am not being professional and I deserve some training on how to not be an ignorant walnut. Even with swearing around, I do think it’s smart to limit yourself to damnation, defecation, and simple fornication rather than gendered swears. There are also some places it’s not wise to swear around, such as client-facing roles because many of the people you will see don’t understand that swearing around is not swearing at.
I once lost a job after the onsite interview. I wait to swear until I I hear them swear. Apparently my use of “fuck” meant I was going to blow up and be a terrible person to my peers. Two years later I started running a department doing the thing I was interviewing for and my staff tends to be fiercely loyal. I’d argue my swearing speaks for itself and have shaped my professional attitude toward swearing around around this experience.
I work in tech and I’m quick to police my language if necessary. I’m also concerned about relative comfort (eg I try really hard not to blaspheme around some Christian peers). I do not swear at people. I do not work in a super corporate environment. YMMV.
I like study (you can find the full article online) and I think there’s been more research down this path in the years since.
If someone doesn’t understand the difference between swearing at and swearing around, that’s a shitty environment.
In one of my better workplaces, the expression was “you can cuss the hardware, you can cuss the software, but don’t cuss your teammate.”
Can I cuss the software for being terrible and then
git blame
in silence right after?As is tradition.
I’ve had one boss comment on it, but that job was weird. They also only hired white people at that office and a secretary on another floor tried to get me fired because she thought I was gay.
Generally…keep it away from customers and don’t be aggressive. Other than that it probably isn’t a good habit, but I doubt anyone would normally care enough to say something about it.
“Fuck” isn’t profane, it’s vulgar. “Goddamn” is profane.
Work in software project management. People swear pretty regularly. The higher up in the hierarchy you go, the more they swear. If a job gave me a warning for that I might leave because they treat their employees like children.
Also work in software. Had people swear on 300+ person meetings, vendors meetings, etc. Nobody has ever been written up to my knowledge.
1st amendment bro
Which only applies to being able to criticize the US government without persecution. It absolutely does not apply to employees of private businesses and institutions. They can fire the fuck out of your ass over your filthy fucking cum gutter of a mouth.
…has nothing to do with the OP’s question.
Bad joke?
The difference is between cursing and cursing AT someone.
“The garage door broke.” “Ah, fuck.” - Fine “You fuck.” - Not acceptable
If you get a written warning, it’s probably time to start looking for a new job regardless.