• blind3rdeye@lemm.ee
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        Is that because you’re too young to have grown up with analogue clocks everywhere? (Clearly the phrase is wrong if a broken clock shows nothing at all…)

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          Some kinds of stopped analog clocks are right twice a day. But when people say “broken,” I want to say “mate, you haven’t seen broken if you think that’s broken.” It’s not broken enough unless the pieces will fit through a sieve.

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          Thanks for assuming you have any idea about me.

          But you are very wrong, I’m plenty old enough to know wtf a analogue clock is.

          I don’t like the comment because it’s shallow and reinforces the dichotomy of Dem vs Gop

          The notion that people are only wrong even if they are right. The idea that a bad person can’t change. Even if they do an empathetic action and care about someone they are still and will only ever be wrong.

          It’s internet shallow, it’s a meme catch phrase for the lazy.

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            The notion that people are only wrong even if they are right.

            That’s literally the opposite of what it means though. The point of the phrase is that even people who are full of bad ideas occasionally come up with a good one.

            The idea that a bad person can’t change. Even if they do an empathetic action and care about someone they are still and will only ever be wrong.

            That requires them to actually change their ways, rather than having a good point mixed in with poisonous ones.

            So yeah, RFK is a broken clock.

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              That’s literally the opposite of what it means though. The point of the phrase is that even people who are full of bad ideas occasionally come up with a good one.

              Ummm that’s literally exactly what I’m saying. You should re-read my comment cos you completely misunderstood my point

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                Your exact words were

                The notion that people are only wrong even if they are right. The idea that a bad person can’t change. Even if they do an empathetic action and care about someone they are still and will only ever be wrong.

                If that’s not what you meant, try to retype your comment so it says what you mean. Because what you said can’t really be parsed to mean

                The point of the phrase is that even people who are full of bad ideas occasionally come up with a good one.

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              That requires them to actually change their ways, rather than having a good point mixed in with poisonous ones.

              Yeah, a better analogy is the effective difference between eating a shit sandwich and a sandwich filled with 99.9% shit and a speck of perfectly tasty honey-baked ham.

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            Fair enough.

            I personally don’t care about the broken clock thing, but a phrase that does annoy me is “if it ain’t broke…” So I can emphasise with the idea that a popular simple proverb often oversimplifies and misrepresents and distorts what people are actually trying to discuss.

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              That’s the problem with the use of a thought-terminating cliche in a discussion. It’s not directly relevant, it’s not an original idea, and it’s a sign that you’d rather make a time-wasting comment than engage. You’re cutting and pasting, not thinking.