• EgoNo4@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    We can’t understand how millions can vote for a senile, convicted sexual predator as president…

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      2 months ago

      Hah! Let’s make a list of the countries where leadership of that ilk has never existed. (We’ll just ignore that most of them did not allow elections.) Won’t take much paper.

      • 1ns1p1d@lemm.ee
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        2 months ago

        The original question was not “what bad thing are Americans guilty of?”

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      2 months ago

      Dude half of us don’t understand it either.

      It’s amazing what decades of defunding education will do when you mix it with a healthy dose of conservative talk show TV and social media algorithms.

      • xor@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        2 months ago

        I wonder how differently the last US election would have played out if Murdoch had died before campaign season

        Going to have a big party when he finally goes and joins Reagan in hell

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          2 months ago

          I guess it’s much less than half.

          About 1/7 are less than voting age. Another 1/7 or so voted for the oompa loompa, and another 1/7 voted against. So actually, about half of the population just doesn’t vote because they’re a different type of idiot.

          I do hate it here, for what it’s worth.

      • Scubus@sh.itjust.works
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        I dunno, i understand it pretty well. Lack of education, lead paint/gasoline, nationalism, fascism, racism, sexism, economic disparity, lack of healthcare to deal with neural degeneracy common in trump supporters, and finally lower borth rates among the more educated. America is a shithole, and has been for the past 40 years at least. Until we finally grow a spine and start “adjusting”, things are going to continue getting worse until were all dead and the olligarchs own everything. Then theyll move on to fucking the rest of the world (harder than they already are)

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          Was with you to the last bit. What does it mean to “grow a spine and start ‘adjusting’”? Why is “adjusting” in quotes?

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              Great, thanks. I want to know what OP actually wants us to do. I hate the situation we were in and I sure as shit didn’t vote for this asshole the first or second time, but other than voting and trying to survive what exactly do you want us to do to “get our shit together”.

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      2 months ago

      Welcome to every election, not just presidential and not just a Republican or Democrat problem. Trump is disgusting but Seattles former mayor was way worse and didn’t get a peep nationwide.

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    2 months ago

    That American exceptionalism is only describing the fact that America continues to have slaves when almost every other nation has banned it completely.

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      This one is far more complicated than non-americans think. I’ve spoken to people outside the country, and they tend to only listen to the really dumb democrats when it comes to this issue.

      You can’t close Pandora’s box. There are 393 million guns in the hands of civilians here. If you have a crazy neighbor with a gun, you kind of have to go get one yourself. That, or devise another method of viable self defense. The cops won’t help you, not in virtually any situation.

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        Funny, though, that there have been working methods of reducing the number of guns in civilized countries in the past.

        But somehow every gun-toting American is totally convinced that reducing the amount of guns on the road is technically impossible,

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          The other realistic option is that he shoots me empty handed. No one is going to take his gun and no one is going to save me in time.

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              Well I can’t go back in time to preemptively stop them from getting a gun in the first place, I’d love to hear any suggestions you have for that situation.

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                  “Just do something a large portion of the country would kill to stop from happening” isn’t a good solution, but you know that. If reason was going to work, we would have used it decades ago.

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      For what it’s worth, the majority of the nation doesn’t worship guns. But the very small minority that does, like… They worship them a lot.

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    2 months ago

    ITT Europeans tell us shit we already know about changes most of us want because they don’t understand gerrymandering and the electoral college

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    2 months ago

    You wasted your chance as a hyper-power. The Soviet Union had fallen and the world was essentially yours but you did nothing with it. Now India and China are rising powers and you are going back to being a regular super-power.

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      2 months ago

      For a growing economy with an excess of people and resources it’s pretty good.

      Our current world, not so much.

      The problem is that there isn’t a currently viable alternative.

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        2 months ago

        Capitalist realism is a bitch.

        There are plenty of viable alternatives; in isolation. The real problem is that capital will always intervene before an alternative can get a foothold.

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      2 months ago

      Unregulated capitalism*

      Capitalism in and of itself is a turbo charger for the economy, but like a real turbo charger it need regulations to not destroy itself and the engine.

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        2 months ago

        that’s a pretty good metaphor but assumes regulatory capture isn’t baked into the cake and pulling up the ladder after consolidating all the wealth isn’t the entire point.

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          You are absolutely right, my comment assumed regulation and acting in good faith.

          I am mainly just so tired of everyone just going “capitalism bad”, when that is not the single answer.

          Eradicating capitalism would be terrible and idiotic.

          I am a firm believer in a social democratic system with a well regulated free market.

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            You’re correct that everything is being held up by capitalism right now so if you remove it then everything collapses. We need to build alternative structures to hold things up before making any attempt on the current system, which should be as simple as using the alternatives instead but power was never given up without a fight.

            I think market systems in general lead to exploitation and democracy is just the tyranny of the majority. We can do better and we should do better.

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              Democracy doesn’t have to be a tyranny of the majority. In its purest form it is. And that is why constitutional republics ensure citizen’s rights in their constitutions. We need a similar system for economy.

              A sketch of that would a be a system where you’d have constitutional republic with independent legislature, judiciary and executive branches. Separated from the economic players as well as possible. They would provide the the outer bounds of a level playing field. Economy would a market economy, where ownership of companies would be distributed among the stakeholders of the system workers, customers and the executive. Similar to how governments ideally function. Workers would have “legislative” power in the company. They would be responsible for company policy. Executives would implement those policies. Customers would decide how well the company performs by either buying their products or withholding their patronage. This would need a lot of guard rails in place. But this would prevent centralization of power in the hands of an “owner”-class.

              Transitioning to this type of system would not be that difficult. As most of what it has is already there. In western democracies. At least on paper. There would be a lot of resistance to this from the “owner”-class. I have no doubt of that.