Rule 6. Locking.
They’re definitely part of the reason why we are where we are. Not the only reason, but definitely a big part of it.
Additionally, I’ll say that their refusal to vote isn’t the protest they think it is. All it did was tell the powers that be that they trust everyone else to choose for them and that they’re fine with whoever wins.
I don’t care, not like our elections actually mean anything, we get Putin anyway.
They don’t care who leads them and are happy to go along with whatever circumstances or rules are presented to them.
Any problems with those circumstances or rules are their fault.
They probably couldn’t afford to miss a day to work, and they know from experience that neither party is going to do anything to change that.
Vote in what?
Perhaps they would feel more inclined to vote if we had more then two viable political parties to choose from.
With a more representative electoral system, people would be free to vote outside the two party system with no spoiler effect. Their vote would count, even if their preference didn’t win.
Who could possibly be against democracy? Republicans? Of course.
How about the democratic party? What is their opinion of democracy? Will they work to ensure their constituents are represented fully? Every day that ticks by without electoral reform in blue states is another day the democrats elevate their party above the needs of the country.
There was a choice. You failed to choose the better option, and thus must accept the worst.
Simple-as.
If they wanted a certain outcome but didn’t do jacks shit, with almost no exceptions as to why they didn’t vote, and complain about it, they are getting absolutely zero, zilch, notta, nothing in the sympathy department from me.
If you got the ability to vote, even if it’s for something as minor as what’s for dinner, and you don’t vote, don’t complain because you didn’t do anything.
I shake my head at ballots cast for elephants
I shake my head at ballots cast for donkeys
cuz I swear to God our leaders
they will be the death of us
there is no vote we can cast to set us free
vote November second if it seems right to you
don’t vote if tithing it just holds is down
but tell me what we’re gonna do on November third
to make sure there’s no government left to elect two years from now
They suck, but not nearly as much as the people that voted for Trump that are now claiming ignorance of his policies and regret their vote.
Everyone get’s what they asked for. The thing about the ubiquitous trolley problem is it has clear outcomes. That’s why it works. Whatever’s happening down the track, here we are. We had a lever we didn’t pull. Best learn to live with the choice, because there was a choice.
Not true at an individual level. Where I live, no way of voting or not voting would have mattered. The same was true where I used to live years ago. In many places it’s clear my vote doesn’t matter every single time and the outcome would not have changed in most of the election categories.
Therefore I do not actually have choice.
Did you make an effort? Yes/no.
Sure, and same. Some of us in the US did get the luxury of protest vote. How’d you do in local? I’m not even a democrat. First time I voted down ticket.
Good for them. The less people who vote, the easier it is to claim correctly that the supposed rulers are illegitimate.
Decisions are made by those that show up. If you didn’t vote, you don’t get to bitch when the results aren’t what you wanted.
Hard not to bitch when, as a citizen of another country, I could never vote, and yet people here still have to deal with the consequences.
You better believe the rest of the world will be bitching.
yes, I do
Oh you do, but you lost the right to be taken seriously by anyone that did. And it’s no big surprise how so many of you that were shouting at everyone before the election have either vanished, or fallen silent about it since.
And we will all laugh at you for that hot take. Next time get off your ass and participate if you have an opinion.
Oh wow, I’m sure this will totally get them to vote next time! /$
No one is going to kiss your ass just because you shout loudly at them about how broken shit is.
That’s not how it works.
And just like how you like to say that no one is entitled to your vote- you’re not entitled to be taken seriously when all you do is demand to be, without doing a damn thing to earn it.
I’m not trying to convince anybody of anything. If you want to be a moron, that’s your prerogative. Same goes for the dude I replied to.
I’ll laugh for not voting and complaining the same way I’ll laugh at a user on a .ml instance, which is a lot.
don’t tell me what to do
I did.
Fine, but we’ll take you less seriously.
this is bigotry
Backwards.
You put american electoralism up on a pedestal and tout its sanctity and your faith in the process. The process yielded Trump. If you truly believe in the sanctity of american electoralism, you now have no grounds to complain.
If you vote, you don’t get to complain.
Buy a helmet. Wear it.
I’m not sure about what election you’re referring to. If you mean in the recent US presidential election, most of them weren’t in a position to realistically affect the outcome anyway; they’d need to be in a swing state, a state that wasn’t already very probably going to go one way or the other.
That being said, if they didn’t vote for the President, they probably also didn’t vote for other things on the ballot that probably affect them as well. It’s not just about electing the President.
They’re no worse than (possibly better than) people who voted for whichever party because their parents/newspaper taught/told them to, or because that’s who they always vote for and are too lazy, stubborn, peer pressured or insecure to change - i.e. people who claim to be politically literate but don’t actually have a clue what they’re really voting for.
