I mean like:
- Chinese (Edit: Mandarin Chinese) will become the lingua franca of the world
- The Internation Aviation Language will (probably) become Chinese (replacing Aviation English)
- Lunar New year becomes a popular holiday (like Chrismas is currently popular worldwide)
- The Internet will use mostly Chinese Chracter
- And instead of 26 Latin based characters, you’ll have to learn thousands of characters, imagine that 😅 (or just use a translator tool 🤷♂️)
- There would be a China version of Hollywood, taking over the original Hollywood
- Fengshui becomes a thing that the world starts to care about
- UN Headquarters now located in Shanghai (I’m guessing this is the most “international” city in China, right?)
- Boeing is dead, some Chinese airplane manufacturer now dominates, competing with Airbus.
- Baidu is default search engine (now with less censorship due to democrarization)
- Harmony OS (Huawei’s Android fork) become the new “Apple”, iPhone is now insignificant, ranking below Motorola in terms of market share.
- Either Windows get brought by some Chinese Bussiness person, or there China makes a Linux distribution that starts off as Open Source with some proprietary components (like how Android is), then eventually becoming Closed Source once they overtake Windows. Lets call it PandaOS (I’m not creative with names 'mmkay)
- etc…
Sounds like an interesting world 🤔
What do you think?
I’d be too worried about the CCP backsliding, but if it theoritycally collapsed, and the ROC swooped in to take its place, then yeah I’d be fine with it. Better than Trump’s america
Me being OK with a specific nation as superpower had zero impact on weather or not that nation becomes a superpower or not.
There should never be a global super power. Ever.
No because we can and ought to have a world without global superpowers and states overall.
In an alternate universe where Britain didn’t went and colonise countries, US is so weak they got wrecked and conquered by Japan in ww2, and China become a democratic country at the end of ww2, then yeah i guess i wouldn’t mind because it didn’t matter.
In current universe? None of that will happen, even if a political party suddenly campaign against CCP and CCP suddenly got voted out next election. English doesn’t became a lingua franca overnight.
Depends on whether or not China shifts demographically as well. They’re currently too xenophobic and monocultural. Look at most western developed country and you’ll see quite a bit of diversity. I don’t think you’ll ever have a global superpower that is so set on race or where you were born.
China is definitely not immigration friendly.
China is not easy to immigrate to, true. But saying they are monocultures or xenophobic is CRAZY.
China has way more peoples and cultures than most countries. It has waaaay more languages officially spoken and taught in school than the US. It’s more comparable to the EU, if it had formed like a thousand years earlier.
Just search a couple of random Chinese provinces or autonomous regions (places where minorities self-govern 😲) in like the north and the south, or the west and the east, and read on the culture and ethnicities there.
Seriously Americans insist they have such vast cultural differences within the US, because “here we say pop and there they say soda; most people here are anabaptist, but there they are Methodists”.
Bro in China they speak languages that are not even related. They follow religions that are separated by thousands of years. They have cultural practices that are unique to their region that developed for thousands and thousands of years.
China is infinitely more diverse than 90% of countries in the world.
Not for long if the han Chinese policy is kept going 😄
What “Han Chinese policy”…?
You know the one-child policy only applied to Han Chinese in major cities right? Ethnic minorities were exempt.
And ethnic minorities have autonomy, meaning they rule themselves and have their own laws/governments. Like the Tai people in Guangxi, or Inner Mongolia where they still have signs in the Mongolian script. While in Mongolia they use the Cyrillic alphabet 😄
The Chinese government sponsors local cultural events and practices, builds temples to local religions (like the largest Buddhist temple in the world in southwest China), incentivizes learning local languages (by having bilingual schools) etc etc.
What has any western country done in that respect? In guarding and preserving minority cultures? Like how are Canada or Australia doing? I won’t even mention the US 😄
Oh I don’t think it’s called the han policy. But it’s about the harmonisation of all people living inside China. It’s the philosophy responsible for the genocide of Uighurs and one very interesting thing is the exchange of christian crosses in churches for pictures of Xi
That’s not a thing 😄
Yeah I can’t say that I know if there ever was clubbed a “han first policy” 😅 But the harmonisation of all people living inside China to be closer to the Han majority is very much a thing. There’s plenty reports of it, just search the net :)
Dang I can’t find anything on that that’s not NED propaganda /: seems like it’s fake surprise surprise
it’ll take a huge and lucky shift to have this happen, but still interesting on your choices of pop culture changes.
anyways, i believe a more short term thing is each region will have economic areas of influence and may or may not have bits and pieces of what you described here.
Linguistically, I want neither English but Chinese, but an auxiliary language to be the lingua franca. I already know Esperanto, so this would be a good candidate as far as I’m concerned. There’s no way I’m learning Chinese.
I want to see as much nonfree closed source software replaced by FOSS as possible, no matter who makes it.
The others (pop culture, companies) wouldn’t bother me much at all. But I don’t think Christmas would stop being popular at least in Europe.
If China becomes democratic it is no longer China anywhere as we know it. The agenda is still, AFAIK, that the totalitarian regime is necessary for another undisclosed amount of time with the end goal to transition into full communism.
The problem is of course that the party elite quite enjoy this position they are in and are in no hurry for any societal transitions in any direction whatsoever.
So, in my mind, your question is at best some imaginary world building for a fictional scenario that has no connection with reality.
I think the point was to have it as a mental exercise. Personally I’d be fine with it. My main issue with China is the entire genocidal surveillance ethnostate with little to no civil liberties and full restricted speech. If it opened up to allow criticism of the government, protests, protection of LGBTQ folks and legal marriage, I’d be more on board.
But yes, that’s not the China we see today and likely never going to see in our lifetimes.
The alternative reality you live in is fascinating.
Would you mind elaborating?
Edit; I got curious and checked out some post history. It’s a tankie. No need to bother then. It will just be arrogance and smug insults and world history that strangely nobody except other tankies find truthful.
Is hexbear leaking or something?
Yeah, no, the Chinese government should not be in charge of China, less so of the world.
I don’t want to have a camera tracking my every movement and lose social points every time I make a misstep. I don’t want to just disappear when I say something the government doesn’t agree with.
Having said that, Fuck pooh bear
I specifically said “If China becomes democratic”… 🙄
I guess all the downvotes is from people that somehow missed it… 🤦♂️
(And yes, fuck lemmygrad, fuck hexbear, fuck CCP, dictatorship is bad regardless of country)
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China already is a superpower
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There can be more than one superpower
They mean global hegemon. China isn’t that.
Global Superpower
Like pervasive American influence into everything. Military bases everywhere. Hollywood everywhere. Internet is mostly American sites with American users, taking about American politics. But replace all that with China.
yeah, it honestly is already like that
China is already like that, just outside the West. Even in the West you’re not going to find a single person that doesn’t have a bit of Chinese goods and/or culture in their daily life.
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I wouldn’t have a problem with any actually democratic country being a superpower since I’ve always lived in a democratic superpower. Though it’s flawed and not the greatest, it sure as Hell would beat growing up in an authoritarian superpower.
As for the things listed, I wouldn’t mind the whole Chinese becoming the defacto world language considering I could probably learn it and if not, translation tools are better than ever before in most cases. I wouldn’t mind Chinese Hollywood so long as they were making quality animated films (which is way more than possible for them currently, just look at films like Legend of Hei and Big Fish and Begonia). Fengshui as a spiritual practice I can’t get behind personally, but have no problems with.
Got no complaints about where UN headquarters would be moved to in this hypothetical so long as it’s not an authoritarian country. I don’t mind Lunar New Year becoming a major holiday since it’s fairly harmless as a concept (just don’t go blowing yourself up with firecrackers somehow). So long as the safety and privacy measures are roughly the same and I’m not being uber spied on, don’t really care who has control of business manufacturing, no authoritarian country though.
Knowing Baidu, without the government requirement to censor, they’d become the new gøøgle in this hypothetical world, so you wouldn’t catch me directly using it. Don’t have enough info on harmony to make a statement about it since I usually just use budget samsun phones with their android tweaks. As for windows/Linux, there are already whole entire Linux distros (like Deepin) that may be forks of one of the big distros but are their own thing. But knowing me, I’d still stick with whatever Linux I am using at the time, so little to no impact for me there.
All in all, I don’t have a problem in this hypothetical. But that’s something we’re pretty far away from ever becoming a reality, though.
since I’ve always lived in a democratic superpower. Though it’s flawed and not the greatest, it sure as Hell would beat growing up in an authoritarian superpower.
Hold onto that thought for the next four years. I suspect this statement is going to age like milk before the next “election”.
I don’t think we have a choice, and the US having the largest military in the world doesn’t really mean anything unless we just want to kill everyone.
Can it become a global superpower without becoming “democratic”?
Because that means a liberal western style democracy right? Where policies enacted by representatives only benefit 1% of the people? Like scientific research has shown that like 10% of laws passed actually represent the will of the vast majority of people. And 50% represent the will of the 1%.
While in China people are constantly polled (like monthly or weekly sometimes) about their opinions, situations, desires, and then laws are formed from that. They participate in local government in councils, and directly decide how their immediate community lives.
What even is democracy? To me it’s to have the will of the people represented in our states.
This doesn’t happen anywhere in the west. When was the last time a government in any major western country was POPULAR. And did what people actually wanted?
How is THAT democracy?
Nah democracy doesn’t work, I would rather it stay the vanguard system and rule the world
