• WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works
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    17 hours ago

    Just how fucking dense do you have to be in order to be surprised that a man who created one of the most popular operating systems on Earth, and then gave it away for free, might be a leftist?

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      11 hours ago

      There’s some libertarians in the FOSS community as well, so it’s not a guarantee, but yeah, generally you’ll find that correlation.

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      13 hours ago

      Right wingers are extremely stupid and don’t really understand what the left stands for, they fall for all fox news strawman arguments and rage bait.

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        This is unfortunately true of both sides.

        For example, conservatives think pro- choicers are callous baby-killers who only care about abortion because it allows them to “whore around” without consequences. Liberals on the other hand, think pro-lifers are misogynists who want to ban abortion because banning it will hurt women and because they want to make the country more like The Handmaid’s Tale.

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          7 hours ago

          …and leftists know that the “abortion debate” is culture warfare injected into the less-educated by billionaires to distract from class warfare.

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            6 hours ago

            I was just using that as an example.

            Another great one is immigration. Liberals thinks conservatives want to restrict immigration because they hate foreigners. Conservatives want to stop immigration because the job market sucks and has sucked since 2008.

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              To consolidate posts:

              Liberals on the other hand, think pro-lifers are misogynists who want to ban abortion because banning it will hurt women and because they want to make the country more like The Handmaid’s Tale.

              None of their stated reasons against abortion hold any water. There are clear ways to reduce abortion, such as comprehensive sex education and widespread availability of birth control. Since conservatives obviously are against those things, we can only conclude their reasons are bullshit. Cruelty fits the data perfectly.

              Conservatives want to stop immigration because the job market sucks and has sucked since 2008.

              Except there is no real link between those two, and even economics framed in conservative terms disproves it. Labor generates profit, which should mean every new worker adds to the economy, not takes away. That is, the resources they use (food, housing, etc.) are offset by the extra resources they produce in their work. There is not some fixed amount of labor the economy can have, and anything beyond that is parasitic overflow.

              So again, if the stated reasons are clearly bullshit, then we are left with a question of why they’re doing it, anyway. Cruelty fits the data perfectly.

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                we can only conclude their reasons are bullshit

                Tbf this isn’t entirely true. Hanlon’s Razor states “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity,” their reasons could be bullshit (as in intentionally, maliciously deceptive), or they could just be dumb enough not to connect the dots. In fact it could be (and likely is) both. The leaders at the top are maliciously lying about their reasoning, and the base is dumb enough to believe the lies, never underestimate the dumb shit people will earnestly believe due to cult brainwashing since birth, you ever talk to a born-in scientologist or Jehova’s Witness? Fucking wild. People telling me dinosaurs absolutely are planted by the devil to test faith and that OT levels are in any way real and shit, fucking crazy out here dude, there’s even a murderous vegan cult called the Zizians now.

                In short: Dumb people be dumbing.

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                  1 hour ago

                  I am a former born-in JW; over a decade out at this point.

                  You’re not entirely wrong, but the leaders at the top are lying, and that’s all that really matters. They know these policies don’t work, but pursue them anyway.

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                    or they could just be dumb enough not to connect the dots. In fact it could be (and likely is) both. The leaders at the top are maliciously lying about their reasoning, and the base is dumb enough to believe the lies, never underestimate the dumb shit people will earnestly believe due to cult brainwashing since birth,

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              The reason why the job market sucks is that unions got defanged and international capital movement freed from the 80s onwards.

              That’s why life for working people took 3 steps backwards compared to our parents and grandparents who could buy a house, go on holidays and have a boat on a factory wage. While we are going to have trillionaires soon and the only thing that’s cheaper is the fuel of capitalism: telecoms and wages.

              The problem has never been another wage earner - the problem is pitting us against each other and us taking the bait.

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      14 hours ago

      created one of the most popular operating systems on Earth, and then gave it away for free

      He didn’t created it alone and “then” gave it away for free. Since it’s begging Linux was free and that created a community who made it the most popular OS.

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        Yes. It’s called summarizing. Obviously it’s a bit more complicated. I’m not writing an essay on the history of Linux here.

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          We would all settle for you not making idiotic comments that mislead anyone who isn’t already informed about this, you might know them as “the vast majority of people”

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            10 hours ago

            That comment isn’t misleading, unless you interpret “creator” as “sole contributor”

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        Yes, yes, and it’s NT/Windows or as I’ve taken to calling it NT+Windows…

        This point is pedantic and tired to the point that it has become an infamous copypasta.

        It’s also, at least as stated here, not even technically correct. A kernel is an operating system all on it’s own. It just can’t do much.

        GNU just provides the software that the user interacts with.

        Additionally, there are a number of Linux distros that are entirely free of GNU software.

        Just about everyone understands what you mean when you call Linux an OS. The pedantry is unneeded.

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          GNU is not even a requirement.

          Look at Void Linux. Look at Alpine Linux. Look at Chimera Linux.

          MUSL instead of Glibc. Clang instead of GCC. Alternative userlands. More and more Linux distros arrive with these traits everyday (many more than I listed).

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        I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

        Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

        There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!