Ricky Gervais.
Liked him ~ The Office, Extras, podcast period, even some of his Golden Globes hosting, but now I find his “edginess” and mugging grating.
At some point I realised his “ironic” depictions aren’t ironic at all, he genuinely is just an average bigot who likes punching down.
The only difference between him and some racist sexist ableist playground bully from the 1950s is Gervais has managed to convince a swathe of people that is ironic and edgy somehow.
Tooooo CHALLENGING for you?!
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Saw that whole special a few year ago. Love him.
Ricky Gervais.
Liked him ~ The Office, Extras
Seems to me his shtick got old right around the time “Lifes too Short” came out, that show started out with a few funny gags but by the end of it I was seriously stuck that this entire show was them making fun of a little person for no good reason.
There’s a fine line between poking fun at everything and being insufferably smug, and I reckon he’s crossed it a bit. The difference is forgetting to include yourself in ‘everything’.
Dave Chappelle and Dwayne Johnson.
Why the rock?
Also of his volunteering with Oprah in Hawaii with the huge fire. Weird seeing humans that have exorbitant amount of money that can actually help, and they’re just passing out water bottles to the people that lost their homes saying that “they wish they could do more to help/hope things work out for them.” It was a publicity stunt at the expense of people who lost everything.
hes also a very difficult actor to work with in the industry, hes known as the “ellen degeneres” of male actors. must have as much if not more attention as the lead in a movie, or as much action or more action than other people. also hes pretty much attention seeker, and people compared him to dave bautista, dave is actor, and he only wanted the glory of a movie star.
Look up his interview he did on Fox News last year. He basically blamed black people for there current situation in themselves and also said that Biden was a terrible president and he didn’t outright endorse Trump but he danced around it.
go figures since hes still with ASSOCIATED with the WWE fanbase, and in general vince who is a trump donor.
Awww maaaaaannnn… Tsk really? That sucks.
Edit, from Wikipedia:
As part of WWE’s non-partisan “Smackdown Your Vote” campaign aiming to encourage young people to vote,[405] Johnson had a speaking role at the 2000 Republican National Convention[406] and attended the 2000 Democratic National Convention less than two weeks later.[407]
Johnson voted for Barack Obama in 2008 and 2012,[276] but did not vote in 2016,[408] and was an independent voter as of 2017.[409] He endorsed Joe Biden in 2020,[410] but told Fox News in an April 2024 interview that he regretted the decision due to it causing “division” and refused to endorse anyone in 2024.[411]
Imo not good, but definitely nuanced and probably not great. I didn’t see the interview though so I don’t know.
He’s trying to stay independent because he fantasizes about running for president one day. He even did a TV show where the framing device was him being interviewed as a presidential candidate, so they could show his life in flashbacks. It was an obvious ploy to position him as a legitimate political candidate in viewers’ minds.
Every rich and/or famous person now thinks they should be president.
Gotta protect the brand.
Why the rock?
I believe he refused to endorse Kamala and then like a true coward said he was keeping his political views private, its was pretty pathetic. The pathetic coward was terrified of a maga boycott of his garbage movies.
Dave jumped off the cliff into the asshole abyss
Bill Cosby. I was raised on Bill Cosby albums and TV shows. I can’t listen to him any more.
My family had “The Best of Bill Cosby” album when I was a kid and we listened to it a lot. Some of the funniest bits on that album and I always had warm memories sitting and listening to them.
Then it comes out that he’s a complete monster. All those family memories tied to that now, it really sucks.
He’s one of the few people who’s work I can separate from the monster, but only because it was my first comedy album as a kid
Neil Gaiman
Came here for this one. Fuck “separate the art from the artist.” I will never read one of his books again.
If he wasn’t preachy/performative about his “feminism” it wouldn’t be as awful
Feminism is in quotes because IMO he doesn’t believe what he preaches
He believes it, he just doesn’t practice it.
Like most men in power, they use it as a way to get close to people they can assert their power or dominance over.
I think he believes he’s actually a feminist. it’s a subtle difference, but an important one. He genuinely believes he’s a good guy and the things he does helps more women than it hurts.
That’s why he’s a piece of shit and so dangerous. He believes his own lies.
Yep. And to think I used to admire him. I’ve had some modest success as a published science fiction and fantasy writer, and I specifically cited him as inspiration for one of my published stories.
Wish I could take it back.
too bad he really 2 good series going on, the series cancelled them both, not because of his sexual harrasment/assaults, now they cant continue due to publicity anyways.
Gaiman stole all his best stuff from Tanith Lee.
She takes all the Disney princesses and rewrites them as evil; Cinderella is a witch who drives the Prince insane and Snow White is a vampire.
She’s not the only one to do that. Many people precede her, including Rice and Biegel. Same within the retelling of myths and legends. Writers have been doing that for decades. There’s no need to make stuff up, he’s a horrible person without made up nonsense.
If you read her you’ll see what I am talking about.
One good example. In her book ‘Death’s Master’ she came up with hte idea that Death and Delusion were relatives. He expanded on that idea with The Sandman.
Same
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I have to give him his due. I just saw him playing a rich asshole in three different shows and he played them all differently. That’s good acting.
Why?
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Does his last name really need two 'm’s?
Yes. Otherwise, it would be such a Ham.
there is something about celebrity worship to be inferred from the fact that there is only 1 non-american celebrity listed in this tgread (spanish news anchor).
that or it is selection bias
Sarah Silverman, said the palestinian babies need to die because theyll grow up to be terrorists then turned off comments for a year on ig, she said more than that had a whole tirade, ruined her. Shes back now pretending she didnt say anything, pr team put in work. My post on her reddit got deleted so I stopped caring about telling ppl, but this made me remember.
Really enjoyed the sarah silverman show, learning this and the cop in her show who was jimmy in bobs burgers went to the jan 6th riots really ruined it for me.
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Never been a Musk fan but I remember on Reddit everyone was calling him the “nerd king” who would change the world
I’ll never forget the chill that ran down my spine when that thing with these cave kids happend in Thailand, and some random guy tweeted him: pleas mr. Musk, you are the closest thing we have to tony stark, help them. I felt genuinely disgusted.
Musk losing it and calling that other dude a pedo during this event is what got me to start hopping off the musk train, so I kinda feel thankful for it?
Watching the SpaceX engineers transform those pods overnight really highlighted the fact that all he does is talk until other, more capable people actually make it happen. They probably could have been quite helpful had he not got in the way with his tantrums.
Side note: wondering if humans will ever figure out that they are not designed to be in caves
You’d think so right? I’m a certified diver and love swimming around the bottom of the ocean but caves and climbing inside shipwrecks is a hard pass. Just going through a lava tube and scraping my tank on the rock gives me the heebie jeebies
OMG yeah you got dark, tight space AND filled with water?? You got a 50/50 chance of getting Darwinized
they are not designed to be in caves
are they design for cardboard box in the middle of a lake?
At teh end it really wasn’t helpful at all and the diver who saved them explained why. That led to his tantrum. I appreciate they tried, but at the end they werre just victims of a marketing stunt.
We had hope then
And he did change the world. To the worse.
fr with how much stuff he’s fucked up so fast it has to be a record of some sort
he always seem wierd to me wasnt a good first impression, he made news, i assume many people found out who he was when announcing the sub/calling the thai seals pedos.
Yeah, that thing with the Thai soccer team really opened my eyes. Later, I saw a documentary on the situation, and there was no way that his submarine idea could have worked, it simply would not have fit.
But rather than accept that those on the scene were more knowledgeable about the situation, he immediately jumped to calling the rescuers pedos, as if the only reason they wanted to rescue them was because they were young boys, and wanted to molest them. What an unhinged take, proving that he was more interested in playing the hero and feeding his ego, than actually rescuing anyone. He saw an opportunity for global promotion, and was pissed when it was denied to him.
It showed me a side that we hadn’t seen before, but turned out to be his real personality.
Wasn’t really a fan as such, but I also though as far as billionaires go he’s at least useful to humanity.
He should have kept to what he was good at - marketing big ideas. Unfortunately narcissists don’t work that way.as far as billionaires go he’s at least useful to humanity.
There’s a good argument that this is still true despite everything. Without China the green-tech revolution would be decades behind schedule, and it took Tesla to make China move.
I agree that Ellen was significant in the race to EVs, but that is definitely in the past. As far as present tense goes, nah.
The tenses are a bit murky “I used to think ‘he’s useful…’” “this still true…” could kinda go either way, but it sounds like you’re saying it applies today, and nah.
Just read what I write, rather than what you think I might be trying to say.
I can’t find it now but there was an analysis a few days ago by a reputable source, maybe in The Atlantic, which said basically what I just said. It’s not scandalous. The guy has an impressive record as a business leader. Perhaps not as a product specialist, or even an engineer, but as force for making things happen at the company level.
Anyway, apparently there’s not much willingness to engage in nuanced debate here so that’s all I have to say.
and it took Tesla to make China move.
Tesla maybe helped boosting Chinas EV industry … but very little for green-tech in general. And EVs are not a particular green or revolutionary technology in the first place.
So no, I don’t think he did much for humanity here.
And EVs are not a particular green or revolutionary technology in the first place.
I think most agree that, at least, EVs are needed to evolve away from the CO2 generated from petroleum consumption used in cars and trucks. Yes yes, “public transportation better for moving people” but that doesn’t work for all countries especially those with lower density population areas. Further “public transporation” does nothing for the “last mile” delivery of goods with regard to logistics.
In almost every situation an EV is better than an ICE vehicle in respect to being “green” and vehicles are what our current systems are designed around.
No, I really don’t agree. Like, at all. The problem is largely that geometry of vehicles creates those highly-destructive, resource-intensive, low-density population areas, and that’s the problem that we need to address. In that respect, EVs are just like any other vehicle. Same streets, same highways, same parking lots, same garages, same bi-weekly grocery runs to the store 5 miles away. We can start to address those problems (zoning, building codes, environmental regulations, land-use, tax structures, and such) now, and it won’t be any easier after 20 years of further automobile-oriented development while we transition the fleet to EVs. It’ll just be 20 years more entrenched. Yeah, EVs help somewhat, but the way we’re approaching them now, they’re like treating 10% of your cancer.
(I take that back if the EVs we’re talking about here are e-bikes and micromobility devices.)
You’re talking about trying to fix a multi-generational problem. In many places the things you’re asking to change have been in place for hundreds years. The politics and land ownership laws and implications are immense! That is NOT a fast problem to fix. If you’re taking EVs off the table, then that means you’re committing to 30-50 years of ICE vehicles pumping out CO2 all of that time.
How can you consider non-EVs a greener solution in your scenario?
(I take that back if the EVs we’re talking about here are e-bikes and micromobility devices.)
Its simply not possible to deliver 2000kg or 2000lbs of cargo to a business for last mile delivery in a timely fashion without a much larger vehicle than an e-bike. Why on Earth would you want a belching diesel vehicle doing that for decades on end when an EV could it with zero CO2 emissions?
It’s a multi-generational problem, so we should start fixing it now. Why is it going to be easier to solve 30-50 years from now? Why should we wait until we’ve transitioned to EVs to start the process? What is it about EVs is going to make that easier?
in fact EVS uses rare earth metals which are not mined in a ecofriendly way. the best way is to ride buses and fund mass transportation.
it took Tesla to make China move.
Maybe so, but I’m not sure whether Tesla really needed Elon Musk.
Really? So where are all its peer competitors? This person has obviously gone off the rails but was once extremely good at making seemingly impossible things happen.
was once extremely good at making seemingly impossible things happen.
Seeing them land the Starship booster on the chopsticks - I’d say that he still is.
What did he do?
The charismatic guy at the top may always get all the credit, but hundreds of other people played a role in Tesla’s success. He wasn’t even a founder of the company. All we can really say is that he bought in at the right time, but we don’t know how much of Tesla’s success was down to his personal decisions. If anything, it seems like Tesla’s decline really started when Musk started using the company more and more for his personal pet projects (Cybertruck, Teslabots etc) rather than the cars that people actually want.
Katy Perry. She got brain rot from dating Russel Brand.
David Draiman. Sadly I can’t listen to the guy sing anymore without my brain thinking of the horrors he is actively supporting.
Oh god damn it, what did he do? I’m assuming something to do with Palestine. I had just gotten back into Disturbed after just kind of forgetting they existed for ~10 years…
He autographed bombs the IDF were planning to drop on Palestine. He even posted a photo of himself doing it.
It’s not a Lemmy thread without some Star Trek references
Robert Beltran (Chakotey), Roxan Dawson (B’Elanna), and Manu Intiravmi (Icheb).
All three of these actors fell off after ST:Voyager and became vile conservative shit posters. I know Robert especially likes to respond to anti Trump or anti Trump Policy tweets the other ex cast members make with “both sides” arguments.
It’s sad in my eyes, but I do hold ST on a pretty high pedestal.
Well, I always kind of hated Beltran as an actor. Really disappointed about the other 2 though, I had no idea.
Add the chick from season 1 of the mandelorian. She’s super gross and trumpy.
The buff one? I thought she was hot until I found out. Was very sad.
Same
I thought the same when she’s chewing the match in Deadpool but then found that out and just kept rooting for Mando to discover she’s a spy and space her but they just wrote her out
She’s still hot. And I bet some people find her hotter because she is clearly stupid too. Lol.
gina carano? the former mma laday, ? who was also in ra3.
It’s extremely funny that she ruined her own career, including a likely spin-off starring her, because she wouldn’t stop comparing the criticism of conservatives and their beliefs to the mass persecution and murder of Jews during the Holocaust.
It’s also extremely funny that she went on to make a movie with The Daily Wire, no one saw it, it got called woke for being an action movie starring a woman.
To top that off, it’s also extremely funny that The Daily Wire is FULL of people who couldn’t cut it in Hollywood, so they kept self-financing their own shitty movies, and are now in financial trouble.
Her movie grossed $7.00
That’s SEVEN DOLLARS
And nobody in this thread remembers her name lol
Critical Drinker and his entourage can fuck off
Aw I didn’t know about Roxan. That’s honestly really sad
Chakotey AND B’Elanna?! My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined 😫
Chakotey AND B’Elanna
Well they were Maquis after all…
Adding Louis CK to the list. I used to like his shows, and genuinely found the writing and his takes to be thoughtful and helpful. Finding out he was gross and shitty the whole time sucked.
hes it disappointing he had the foreknowledge to shield his “cancellation” by moving it all online shows. he pratically came back amonsgt conservatives people and men who dint know his past history.
I never understood this take. Like, did you not actually listen to the shit he said when you “liked” his shows? Did you not see the skit where he went on a morning interview and told his female interviewer that he was going to jerk off to her later and there was nothing she could do about it? If so, how was it actually surprising to hear he jerked off infront of a female coworker after he told her he was going to do it? You can separate the art from the artist all you want, but at some point you have to realize that all that art came from somewhere.
I believe that skit was about christofascist suppression of masturbation so it was appropriate at the time. The interviewer was surnamed “Fapper”.
A lot of his humor was based on things you want to do but don’t. So exploring dark desires that you should not act on is reasonable for comedy. Then it comes out that he did some of that stuff and it’s not funny anymore.
I didn’t see that skit.
Tobey Maguire, “the worst tipper, the best player, and the absolute worst loser.”
Read More: https://www.looper.com/10857/hollywood-wont-cast-tobey-maguire-anymore/
Throughout that entire article, only the poker stuff had anything to actually fault Maguire with, and it appears to depend entirely on what Molly Bloom said.
Oh, Garrett Borns. Such fantastic pop music, got accused of grooming, retired.
Came back, years with a whiny track about that, not even good, so bad, I guess it broke him.
musk
There was a time when SpaceX and Tesla seemed like they were gonna change the world for the better, less co2, going to Mars and he even gave a few talks at astronomy events where he spoke about how carbon capture on Mars could be used to make rocket fuel (which is real and has been done btw) and bring starship rockets back, and how that same tech could be used on earth to help fight global warming. The future was gonna be amazing and I honestly believed he was gonna help make it happen
there’s a real reason marvel had him in iron man 2
Honestly thought there were gonna be downvotes on this one about people saying how Elon never invented anything or founded anything and it was all a persona. I believed it though and all that climate change stuff I thought was genuine.
Yeah, I was never a true believer or fanboy, but back before he lost his mind and fired his PR department, I was cool with the electric cars, space exploration, solar roofs, trains, and even fun flamethrowers.
