• Whirlygirl9@kbin.melroy.org
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    1 day ago

    if it wasn’t for vaping, i would have never been able to have quit smoking/vaping. thanks to the ability to control the nicotine, i was able to completely stop.

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      16 hours ago

      I hoped that’s what my friends would do. But they just seemed to smoke and vape before they went back to just smoking.

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      19 hours ago

      Huh. A bit like how I got myself off of high-sugar drinks; progressively I’ve added more and more water dilution until I was okay with pure water.

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      I quit vaping just four months ago. I switched from smoking when I moved to another city where smoking on public property is illegal. Vaping only caused me to continue nicotine use for about five more years at a much more constant rate.

      I just seriously doubt that vaping helped you to quit.

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        The difference between you and the person you’re responding to is that they made an intentional choice to stop smoking and used vaping as the medium through which they slowly weened themselves off. You, on the other hand, were “forced” to vape and chose to indulge in it at a “much more constant rate” because you weren’t trying to quit in the first place.

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          I wasn’t forced to vape, I was pretty addicted to nicotine so that’s the only reason I switched to vaping.

          Continuing nicotine, regardless of type keeps you addicted longer. It’s stupid to suggest vaping as a way to quit smoking—I might as well tell you to chew nicotine gum all the time.

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        1 day ago

        Following that logic, you must also doubt that nicotine gum, patches, etc work, because they’ll just cause continued nicotine use after stopping the burning of tabacoo?

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            14 hours ago

            It sounds like you don’t fully understand the process many people have gone through to quit smoking successfully.
            Must be hard navigating the world being so willfully ignorant. Or you’re just a pedantic asshole.

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              🤣 Wow, overreact much?

              I’m not going to sit here and pretend continuing using nicotine is the solution to quitting nicotine. I’m not saying it’s the same for all drugs (caffeine and alcohol should be quit gradually) but nicotine is totally different.

              I’ve quit so many times in the past where just one cigarette or one puff on a vape was enough to restart the entire process again. I have the experience to actually confirm that—but it’s not even just me who says that. Check out whyquit.com or read studies about nicotine withdrawal if you don’t believe me.

              But yeah, I’m just a pedantic asshole. And you’re just another fucking Lemmy user that thinks they know everything. Get fucked.

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        i smoked cigarettes from 13 years old until my 40s. i switched to vaping, stepped down nicotine levels to zero and finally quit all together. it took 2 years but it worked. i tried medications, cold turkey, and wasn’t able to stop until the step down method.

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        Vaping is how I quit smoking cigarettes. I was also much more addicted to vapes than I ever was to cigarettes, but at least I didn’t cough as much. Now I use nicotine pouches. The day all this shit is illegal is going to be a good day for human health.

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          I did the cig-vape-pouch thing. When I started vaping (when it was still believed innocuous) I noticed I breathed the same or worse than smoking, and my nicotine intake rose, because I coud just chug on the thing continuously. I then went to pouches. That actually helped. It did send my heart racing, but no smoke/vapor/smell. I quit a few months back. Allen Carr’s book helped.

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            I had such a nasty smokers cough and spit up such nasty brown shit all day, especially in the morning, when I smoked cigarettes. I vape now, and I definitely still feel like it’s harming my lungs, no question about that, but instead of being out of breath all the time, I only get out of breath when I’m actively vaping, and I don’t cough so loud I wake up people two houses down anymore. Quitting vaping is definitely hard though, nicotine intake is instant and higher because there’s no built in “quit” like when you finish a cigarette.

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    Let the kids smoke, maybe enough of them will get asthma and will be able to dodge the draft.

    I mean I don’t think kids should actually smoke, but I always find it funny that on some things governments are willing to move heaven and earth for the sake of the children…and then turn a blind eye to things like global warming and war. Like these are also bad for the children my dudes.

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      It’s not about the children, as usual. It’s big pharma and big tobacco wanting to remove the biggest threat to their chantix and cigarettes scheme.

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      Yeah but curbing climate change doesn’t let the government strip people’s privacy and bodily autonomy rights away.

      ETA: No I don’t think kids should smoke either, and the warnings are good. It’s the willful abuse of “think of the children” by lawmakers I’m addressing.