• Jankatarch@lemmy.world
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    To be fair there is also the suicide rate.

    Also what the fuck were they expecting, Japan to be some Christian paradise?

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    Your unhoused numbers are wrong. Those are the official “sleeping on the streets” numbers, which is not the same thing. First because they’re official, and therefore almost certainly undercounting, and second because they exclude all of the situations where people don’t have houses but are kinda not exactly in a cardboard box.

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    Given the confluence of weeb culture and the alt-right (think incels and “traditionalists” with anime avatars, right-wing gamers pointing to Japan as a high-tech conservative utopia untouched by wokeness and such), it was inevitable that sooner or later someone would try to imagine a Japan that goes to Latin Mass.

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      Is that still a pervasive thought in today’s culture about Japan? I understood back in the 90’s when there was less exposure but I thought that reality kinda crumbled with the loss of high tech companies that actually give a damn anymore. I don’t know of anyone that talks about “premier” Japan tech unless it’s something from the past.

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    I do not trust any stats that come out of Japan in terms of homelessness. If there’s a statistic that’s embarrassing for Japanese society, you know damn well they’re gonna try to cover it up with technicalities.

    In Japan, the legal definition for someone who is homeless is: “those who use city parks, riverbanks, roads, train stations and other facilities as their place of stay in order to live their daily lives.”

    So that doesn’t include living in your car, living in insecure housing, living in shelters, or living in internet cafés, of which in 2020 there were about 15,000 ‘net café refugees’ in Tokyo alone.

    Sooo yeah, Japan can claim to officially have a super low homeless population, because they’ve narrowed the definition so much that you have to literally be sleeping on the street for it to count.

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      yeah they also fail to acknowledge the suicide rate or the amount of overtime or purchasing power of avg wages.

      I’m not making any statements on any countries other than japan. but I’ll add a message to american weebs: STOP FETISHIZING JAPAN

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      They also flub their murder rates. It’s considered unclean to handle dead bodies, so autopsies aren’t common and anything that could be ruled a suicide, is.

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      I’ve lived in three different major Japanese cities and see fewer people sleeping rough in a year than I can see in an hour in either Europe or the US.

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    I just woke up, but I don’t think the unit should be percentage per 100k people. Otherwise, I agree with the statement though.

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      Fuck all religion. No I don’t want to reject reality to play make believe.

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          Hail Satan!

          Jokes aside, it’s good to see more Satanists out in the wild. TST has been doing great shit, and I’m all here for it.

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          So you genuinely believe Satan exists and has influence in the world? Where does he live under the Earths mantle?

          Because that is entirely at odds with everything we know about reality.

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            Many, if not most, modern satanists are atheistic satanists. Satan is merely a convenient bit of Judeo-Christian mythology/imagery used to irritate Christians.

            While I hesitate to recommend The Satanic Temple due to the actions of one of the founders, their “7 Fundamental Tenets” are a pretty great basis for an atheistic worldview.

            Edit: normally, I’d link some resources, but it’s late, I’m on mobile, and search engines exist, so… Sorry, not sorry.

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              So he’s not religious and doesn’t actually believe in Satan?

              It’s like atheism with extra useless steps.

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                Sort of.

                The satanic Temple chose their name because of the literal meaning of the word “Satan”, which may be the name of the big bad from religious types but actually means “adversary” when directly translated from Hebrew.

                Atheists can take all forms, and by no means do I assume what any individual believes, but by the very definition, atheists can be extremely passive in their belief, or more accurately, non-belief. The atheists I know are usually very live and let live, after a while because they realize that arguing the point with religious folks usually doesn’t get you anywhere.

                TST is dedicated to the fair use and representation of religions in society. They’re obviously based in the USA where there is a separation of church and state, at least, there’s supposed to be. So the state cannot show favoritism to any religion, but they often do. Usually with monuments like a depiction of the ten commandments placed on city owned land. This is a real and fairly recent issue that TST got involved on. They asked that a statue of Baphomet be placed on the same city owned land, forcing the city into a position of either allowing the statue to be placed along side the very Christian ten commandments, or admit that they are favoring Christianity, which they basically cannot do because it’s a violation of their station.

                Satanists are a bit more active, by default, than atheists. Not to say atheists are inactive or lazy, it’s just that Satanists have a very specific target.

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                  Look it’s cool that you’re in a philosophical moral club, but don’t go around defending religion by calling yourself a religion and saying ‘look at me as an example of a good religion’ when you don’t actually hold religious/supranatural beliefs.

                  And if you do hold such beliefs, don’t claim you accept reality.

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                Trolling the politicians who try to violate the separation of church and state isn’t useless.

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                Being a Satanist while identifying as an atheist is often associated with a specific philosophical stance rather than a belief in a literal Satan or supernatural entities. In this context, Satanism can be seen as a symbolic representation of individualism, self-empowerment, and rebellion against traditional religious norms. Here are some key points to consider:

                • Atheistic Satanism: Many atheistic Satanists do not believe in a literal Satan but use the figure as a symbol of freedom, personal responsibility, and the questioning of authority.
                • Moral Framework: For these individuals, Satanism can serve as a moral compass that emphasizes personal ethics, critical thinking, and the pursuit of knowledge. It often promotes values such as individualism, self-determination, and hedonism, but within a framework that encourages personal responsibility.
                • Philosophical Approach: This form of Satanism is more about philosophy and lifestyle than theology. It focuses on human experience and the material world rather than spiritual or supernatural beliefs.
                • Cultural Critique: Atheistic Satanism can also be a critique of organized religion, particularly Christianity, and may advocate for secularism and the separation of church and state.

                In summary, being a Satanist while being an atheist often reflects a philosophical and ethical stance rather than a theological one, emphasizing personal empowerment and a rejection of traditional religious dogma.

                TL;DR Atheism simply means you don’t believe in a god. It makes no other claims. Satanism encompasses more than that simple perspective.

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                  It’s pretty commendable that you’re trying to educate that person. I wouldn’t have even bothered since it’s clear that they’re asking questions in bad faith.

                  Paraphrasing it:

                  So you believe in Satan? That’s stupid.

                  And

                  So you’re atheist? With useless extra steps, too.

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    Japan also has a terrifyingly high conviction rate, something those Christians would cream themselves over.

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    % per 100k? This person is making a valid point, but it’s undermined somewhat by the fact they’ve clearly fucked up something.

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          Yeah, but those other stats are raw numbers. Okay, we have a higher number of unhoused people and food-insecure people, but we also have a higher number of people, period. If you wanna make a point, it has to be per capita. I like how the first stat got this right, but the others did not.

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            Ya might be a good point but it’s a distracting mess

            Thankfully we already know a little bit about both of our situations so we get the gist

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        .2% per year? So we should expect about 10% of people to be murdered by 50?

        I was going to say .2% is better than I thought, but that’s pretty dire.

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          0.2 people, not percentage. That was what they were trying to straighten out because percent per 100k doesn’t make sense.

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      Eh, the population difference is less than one order of magnitude and the difference in homelessness is two orders of magnitude.

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        It’s not about that, it’s about “% per 100k” making no sense as a unit. It’s either just %, or an absolute number per 100k. Mixing both together like this makes it seem like you’ve clearly messed something up and don’t quite understand what you’re actually talking about.

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    Is there something wrong with her heart? Maybe she needs to go see a doc… oh, wait nvm. We’ll just pray the pain away for her.