I don’t really care about Star Wars

  • dkppunk@piefed.social
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    3 months ago

    Fandoms ruin movie franchises worse than any bad directing or writing ever could.

    I avoid fandoms of franchises I enjoy because they end up sucking the life out of everything. When things don’t go exactly as fans expected or want, people turn to the internet to rage at things we once loved. Many of these “dogshit” movies are entertaining and fine as they are. But we’ve become so obsessed with our own expectations of what story a movie is supposed to be or say, that we have stopped allowing others to tell their own stories and show their own visions. It’s just all about ragging on whatever all the time.

    This includes: Star Wars, Star Trek, Marvel, DC, everything in the Tolkien universe, etc. All perfectly fine franchises that just aren’t for everyone and I think that’s ok.

    Exception: The last 2 Ghostbusters movies, those movies forgot what the GB are supposed to be about; adult, raunchy, horror comedy.

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        3 months ago

        I never got into Rick & Morty, but I also didn’t hear about it until it was popular and the fan base had already turned me off of it. “Fans” really can ruin great things.

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      Hideaki Anno reportedly dealt hilariously with this: when fans started complaining that the ‘Neon Genesis Evangelion’ was getting weird, he doubled down on the confusion. Well NGE is now a modern classic worldwide.

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      The more I like a movie or franchise, the less likely I am to read what others are saying about it because I don’t want to hear the negativity

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        I am the same way, even if it’s a show I don’t like, I’ll avoid fandoms because they make it worse.

        The only one that I have not noticed get bad is for The Expanse, but I don’t delve too much into it, so maybe I just don’t see it. I’m just obsessed with the books and tv show.

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    3 months ago

    I really liked how the 48fps version of the Hobbit looked (even though the movies themselves were mediocre).

  • JakoJakoJako13@piefed.social
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    3 months ago

    More theaters need a rotation of classics. There’s a whole subset of movies I’d love to see in theaters again and having to wait for some small theater half an hour away to show one of those for one weekend a year is a bummer.

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      Sorry, chief. Best we can do is a lousy remake instead. That’s because the licensing rights for oldies are too hard to figure out so we can’t be bothered, and all creativity in Hollywood died in 1999.

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        This is why I love my local theater, comparatively cheap tickets and the best prints for old classics running all the time.

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          Sometimes they also bring in the director, or someone else that was involved in the production to talk about the movie. Those are really fun.

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      Its funny because when I was young bargain theaters would play old stuff they could get cheap regularly. I think its tougher now that people can see something whenever they like.

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          I’m not the one who said it’s dead. I’m not disagreeing with you, I’m just trying to better understand you.

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            Very well, where do I begin?

            My father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner from Belgium with low grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery.

            My mother was a fifteen year old French prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet.

            My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament.

            My childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we’d make meat helmets. When I was insolent I was placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds — pretty standard really.

            At the age of twelve I received my first scribe. At the age of fourteen a Zoroastrian named Vilma ritualistically shaved my testicles.

            There really is nothing like a shorn scrotum. It’s breathtaking — I highly suggest you try it.

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    The film/tv industry really really sucks at showing smart people.

    Oppenheimer sucked. Barbie was only good in comparison to how much shittier stuff there is nowadays.

    I haven’t seen a movie in years where exposition scenes haven’t felt like they were directed by a condescending 5th grader.

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      Hot take: movie goers are so used to suspension of disbelief that movies are too afraid to take risks that challenge the audience.

      Like Netflix pushing every movie to say the plot.

      But also, how many braindead takes from “influencers” or morons who don’t understand the film.

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      That will happen when you have writers who aren’t as smart as the characters they’re trying to write for and studios scared of putting out anything that audiences may not understand.

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        Throwback to this great rant:

        So apart from tumblr fanbase, why doesn’t /tv/ like this show?

        Because it has smart characters written stupidly.

        Anton Chigurh from No Country for Old Men is a smartly written smart character. When Chigurh kills a hotel room full of three people he books to room next door so he can examine it, finding which walls he can shoot through, where the light switch is, what sort of cover is there etc. This is a smart thing to do because Chigurh is a smart person who is written by another smart person who understands how smart people think.

        Were Sherlock Holmes to kill a hotel room full of three people. He’d enter using a secret door in the hotel that he read about in a book ten years ago. He’d throw peanuts at one guy causing him to go into anaphylactic shock, as he had deduced from a dartboard with a picture of George Washington carver on it pinned to the wall that the man had a severe peanut allergy. The second man would then kill himself just according to plan as Sherlock had earlier deduced that him and the first man were homosexual lovers who couldn’t live without eachother due to a faint scent of penis on each man’s breath and a slight dilation of their pupils whenever they looked at each other. As for the third man, why Sherlock doesn’t kill him at all. The third man removes his sunglasses and wig to reveal he actually WAS Sherlock the entire time. But Sherlock just entered through the Secret door and killed two people, how can there be two of him? The first Sherlock removes his mask to reveal he’s actually Moriarty attempting to frame Sherlock for two murders. Sherlock however anticipated this, the two dead men stand up, they’re undercover police officers, it was all a ruse. “But Sherlock!” Moriarty cries “That police officer blew his own head off, look at it, there’s skull fragments on the wall, how is he fine now? How did you fake that?”. Sherlock just winks at the screen, the end.

        This is retarded because Sherlock is a smart person written by a stupid person to whom smart people are indistinguishable from wizards.

      • phdepressed@sh.itjust.works
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        3 months ago

        Sure and perhaps I’m wrong but just because you aren’t one doesn’t mean you don’t know any. Heck they often get consultants for medical shows for some bits of realism. How hard would it be to talk to some actual scientists and engineers (would probably be pretty cheap) when you’re already spending millions.

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    Cinematic universes shouldn’t live forever. At some point, there is just too much of it, both for people making it and for people watching it.

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      Warm Bodies is an homage to the Shakespeare Cinematic Universe. Just, with zombies.

      How old is the Shakespeare Cinematic Universe? Does it count if it started out live-action?

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      I think it’s more that we turned cinematic universes into a forced content machine to have x number of side character movies per year, with one major tentpole event every few years, with tv shows, video games, and comics all filing in gaps along the way. It’s exhausting. I’m fine with a connected universe that is allowed to live and breathe in it’s own.

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    Regular actors should stick to regular acting and leave voice acting to voice actors.

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          I was talking to someone about that movie, and I brought up Chris Pratt. They didn’t know who he voiced in the movie.

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          Oh man, the idea that you consider the worst Chris to be a bigger draw than Mario. Wow

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            I think it’s more about drawing other audiences. Kids and gamers will absolutely watch Mario. If you cast Pratt, you could probably pull marvel fans as well. Using the og Mario voice actor may miss out on those sales

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              Again he’s the worst Chris. He’s not a draw for anybody. Great actors can’t be draws. That ain’t him.

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                  Okay, just as a caveat I know we should let this go and it doesn’t really matter and it’s obviously all subjective. However I’m just deathly curious, do you consider Chris Pratt a great actor? Cuz I’ve never heard anyone say that and I’d be fascinated to find otherwise.

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    Chainsaw Man Movie: Reze Arc:

    Major spoilers for the movie. You have been warned.

    The story should have been about an existing character and not a new character that gets killed off in the end.

    Reze’s story wasn’t bad, but I cannot connect with her the same as with any of the already established characters. Plus there was a huge lack of Makima throughout the movie. She shows up at the start for around 20 minutes, then disappears until the last 2-3 minutes of the movie just to kill Reze off.

    It feels like nothing was really gained because of this, other than a gun devil piece and a mini arc with the angel dude.

    I would have much preferred an arc about someone we don’t know well, like Makima or some of the other devils we met during the show’s finale (We got a mini arc for the angel dude, but what about the Shark fiend or the spider lady?)

    Overall, the movie wasn’t bad. It just wasn’t what I was looking for in a Chainsaw Man movie.

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      It is pretty faithful to the manga, which is what I was looking for. I can’t imagine they could haveade it better by just ad libbing some bullshit Chainsaw Man fanfic.

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    CGI shouldn’t win cinematography or even special effects awards.

    Both of those things used to be collaborative skills. Multiple people working together to make a great composition on the screen. (director, cinematographer, set designer, costumer, prop-maker, foley artist, actor, etc…)

    A great shot in CGI requires a computer and rendering time. It’s not the same.

    If you can do everything with a computer, than none of your special effects are special by definition.

    Oh…You’ve got spiderman framed above buildings high in the sky in Into the Spider Verse? Great…cool shot…but took nothing to actually create it.

    If you tell me that to get that shot you had professional stunt people doing wire work, a complex camera rig, two helicopters and high-speed camera? THAT is the special in special effect.

    Made it in a computer? It’s meaningless.

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      A great shot in CGI requires a computer and rendering time. It’s not the same

      Artists

      They need (3D) artists, gramps.

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        Oh I’m not saying there isn’t skill involved. There’s obviously artistic skill involved.

        But there’s already awards for that kind of thing. It’s a completely different skill set completely removed from the collaborative nature of film-making and film special effects.

        One person sitting behind a computer, no matter how skilled, isn’t the same as a team working in tandem to create something awe inspiring.

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      You clearly dont know enough about how pipeline to make good 3d effects goes.

      You cant just toss enough money and time to make good CGI scene. The director needs to understand how the effects work and how design the scene with that in mind. There is huge amount of work to make sure the real parts in the scene work with the CGI parts. It needs just as much planning, story boarding and collaborations between the different groubs than any other special effect shot needs. The lighting needs to match, the eye lines of the actors need to match. Any time when there is contact between real things and 3d modeled things it needs to be planned shot by shot to make it work. Even full CGI scenes need to be planned how they stransit in to ot from the real footage.

      If you think special effects are just high speed pursuits or stunt men doing wire work, you really are selling the whole VFX industry short.

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    Advertising matters for movies. Every time someone says “movies suck now”, there’s always some guy that says “movies are great if you know where to look”. Sure, but where is that? I can find listicles with a few of them, but this is usually only the ones that break into mainstream. It’s not feasible to ask someone to join a forum or Discord about indie movies just to not be fed slop.