• NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca
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    RIP to the Endangered Species Act

    No chance the US government will forego money for their broligarchs because of environmental laws.

    But if you really want to overwhelm someone’s property with an unkillable native plant, I’d have to put Virginia creeper forward as a candidate.

    • potoooooooo 🥔@lemmy.world
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      Get a few people. On one corner: bamboo. On another, kudzu. On a third, blackberries and mint. On a fourth, your creepers. Let the games begin.

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          Eh, ecosystems adapt. Most “invasive” species made their way to new lands on their own. The problem is when humans consciously introduce a new species with a purpose, knowing that it dominates against something the idiot human doesn’t like.

          There are only really a few big rules to keep things going. Don’t get rid of the sole predator for a populous prey animal. Don’t introduce prey animals to an environment that reproduce faster than they can be eaten. Don’t plant clones, diversify genetics within a species(looking at you, orchards and tree farms).

      • Apathy Tree@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Should add sunchokes/Jerusalem artichoke in there somewhere, as they are food. I don’t think kudzu is? Lets replace that one.

        Sunchokes spread like crazy as long as they have full sun, and are super difficult to eradicate, but are thwarted by being planted in sunny clearings in densely wooded areas. They can’t spread into the shade.

        Make the land difficult for development, but useful for the community!

      • voxthefox@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        My asshole of a neighbor planted a line of bamboo right on our fence line, so now once a week I have to go to my side yard and dig up roots or they’ll choke out my ac unit within months.

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          If you dig down about 2 foot (or several inches lower than the lowest root you find) and install a rubber barrier that goes from the bottom of the trench to up above the soil, it wont be able to spread to you anymore :)

          You could use brick, stone, or cement, but if any cracks exist or form it’ll eventually find the way through, where that’s significantly less likely with a solid sheet of rubber.

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    They will simply cut whatever protections exist stopping it. Still do it, just don’t expect it to be a forever solution.

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    Except it’s only native to the central valley in California so if you’re anywhere else this is not going to have any effect.

    I guess this person just didn’t look up its range or something? The species pictured there isn’t even native to CA.

    Most endangered species have restricted ranges, which is part of what makes them endangered. So you’ll have to do the work to find out what might be present in your local area.

    That said I did just hear they’re trying to build one in Roseville, CA which IS in the range of this species so guerrilla gardeners, if you happen to be in Roseville, go nuts.

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        For everyone who wants to know why it’s endangered (like i did): Because of a fungus that originally grew on the japanese chestnut variant (starting in the early 1900s), to which the american chestnut has no resistance - it is estimated that in in first half of that century, three to four billion tree died to that fungus. In the original geographic range of the American chestnut, only 4 mature trees remain. There are still some root systems that sprout saplings, but they get killed off by the fungus quickly. There are some enclaves in other areas that still have a few hundred, like in northern Michigan

  • M137@lemmy.today
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    Top tweet (or whatever it is, IDFK): Good global idea.

    Second tweet: “OnLy ThE uS eXiStS”

    It would have been so easy to word it different to make even a hint at being aware of the rest of the world, but we know that would never have happened. Because 'Murica brained.

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    Easy to notice if it has been purposefully planted recently though. Might delay it for a little bit, maybe

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    Neat idea… but I don’t think federal law is gonna stop the oligarchs under this administration.

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    Elderberry is also a wonderful edible medicinal plant. Their berries are delicious and immune boosting

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    More than likely they do a survey to determine if the beetle is present. There is a whole thing about core and matrix habitat for species at risk, with matrix being less protected.

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      I knew someone who briefly worked in this field and quit due to the corruption.

      One day he does find endangered shit. He tells his boss, “hey you know they have so and so on this land, actually you gotta call this one.”

      The boss sighs and is like, “let me explain how this works. We can do this and call it out, but next time this guy has a big project, he’s not contracting out to us. And the other guys will definitely let it slide. Either way, they’re building, and we end up going out of business eventually. You might win this one time, but eventually it won’t matter.”

      I think at the end of the day, he quit and they built over it.

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          There’s probably some grossly underfunded and under staffed auditing organization that has no teeth but makes everyone who’s not really paying attention feel better.

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        That dude was just corrupt. My wife has to deal stuff this exact stuff and they literally reroute, build in a different area, or have to take extreme precautions like not building at that time of year that will most affect the endangered species.

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          I am an environmental consultant, too. You’re correct that they often re-route or change their designs based on habitat, though this isn’t always the case. They can determine if the impact is major, or if it can be reversed or off-set. An example would be a mine that goes through woodland caribou habitat. They’ll still mine the fuck out of it, but then they’ll be required to reclaim it back to what it was. The rub is that people think reclamation is a fast or sure thing, but it’s neither. Some ecosystems, like those that support caribou are really hard to re-establish, but operators can get on with a commitment to restore, and a couple of contingencies in case the reclamation doesn’t work.

          @[email protected] yes, this is a thing in consulting, but often with the smaller, more cowboy firms. Bigger firms can push back a bit, and say ‘hey, look. we really don’t recommend this, here’s the risks’ or flat refuse service if they can take the hit.

          @[email protected] yes, generally, consultants are hired to do things like rare plant surveys or wildlife sweeps. It’s not the EPA or other regulators doing this and the operators don’t have the capacity or expertise to do it themselves usually.

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    That would only be a problem if there were still rule of law in the US. If that were the case, they wouldn’t be able to run all those gas turbines either.

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    Then apartment owners will use this to plant them in areas where people are trying to build affordable housing.

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      apartment owners

      people […] trying to build affordable housing

      Unfortunately, these are often the same people. A developer will usually make a deal with a municipality that requires that x% of new units built must conform to “affordable housing” requirements. That’s it. It’s kind of a whole scam used so big developers can just develop MORE AND MORE.

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        Its not always bad. In areas that are already urban that scheme can be combined with fewer parking places near public transit and result in a larger overall supply of housing. And mixing poor families into nicer neighborhoods rather than clumping them together into a Housing Project can mean they’re not in a food desert and have better-funded local schools and a better-maintained building, maybe be closer to where they work. As well as increasing neighborhood diversity and interaction in general. It’s not helpful to profoundly destitute folks who need lots of services but it can help people who just need a home they can afford.

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          No, I’m saying that real estate developers are overcoming the NIMBYs by instilling themselves into their local politics, and then calling for “future forward” mix-use development, obstensibly thinking about the “changing demographics” of the local area, wanting to build GIANT developments that mix high-end condos, affordable housing, and senior care (both assisted and independent) into the same space. This enables them to essentially control the housing market, and then buy up all of the nearest single family dwellings and repeat.

          This is to say nothing about the massive developments going up all over our farmland outside of city centers, as gentrifiers are now bored/sick/scared of the city and seek to once again suburbanize.

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    I had no idea Sambucus was native to America. Elder flower is such a quintessential childhood flavour to me.

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        That’s a hard question. It’s floral, which feels like “duh.” It has a fairly mild fragrance. Here it is almost always paired with lemon as well, so you end up with a kind of tangy, floral lemonade kind of thing.

        It’s great.

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        It tastes a little like a honeysuckle smells, but lighter and not cloying. It’s a very floral taste, sweet, complex, fairly unique. You can get elderflower syrups or liqueur, or sometimes fancy sodas, and it’s a very distinctive and unmistakable taste. One of my favorites.