I feel like if you’re writing the sentence “an optional, paid version of our browser that offers Brave […] without its extra features,” you need to sit back and take a long, hard look at yourself.
Adds features and asks for a payment to access the toggle buttons
hahahahahaha
Brave runs an ad network.
“Origin” is a peculiar choice for a version name. I wonder if they’re trying to go off of the popularity of a common extension
Use LibreWolf instead. Fuck Brave.
That’s a brave move.
Are brave and Plex related?
No, but brave “shields”, aka pre installed but shittier unlock origin, can sometimes break plex or other sites that require certain things that could look like trackers
I meant because Plex also added so much extra shitty shit that I never asked for and couldn’t remove, so I moved to jellyfin
There’s no way people will actually pay for this, right? … right?
I read the article.
But also I’m out of the loop on why ppl hate Brave. Can someone clue me in?
Is there a better cross-platform browser? I like to use the same one across devices.
I don’t have a strong opinion on brave, but here’s some reasons I can think of:
- cryptocoin shit
- based on chromium (so using this instead of firefox, for example, increases google’s hegemony – and this is true: even though chromium is open source, google completely controls its direction)
- CEO is a homophobe
- scammy business practices like inserting affiliate codes in urls
And this is just the stuff that I know from the top of my head. I don’t particularly care about this topic, so I’m sure there’s more. Although, having written all this out, I can sense that my opinion of Brave has worsened significantly.
Isn’t it open source ? Can someone build a fork with all of this shit removed ?
It’s based on Chromium, which is open source. It IS the fork.
Yeah I guess. Doesn’t really change any of the arguments against it though. I mean, it’s good that it’s open source of course, but the ceo is still a homophobe, for example. And it still chromium based, and so on.
The CEO is a POS and has ties to other rich unsavory people
In the past they have done money grabs. It’s been quite a while now.
They still run their own ad network and search engine, They’re definitely down to sell you out if you let them.
If you never sign up for the crypto, or use the VPN, and remove the buttons, it won’t hurt you.
If you run a plugin you can remove their newtab / default page
If you change the settings you can move off their search.
it is open source https://github.com/brave/brave-core
The only thing you’re getting out of them that’s above any other de-googled option is their anti-fingerprinting which is a little better than the others.
The other reason you’d run them is because they have a paid development staff blocking Youtube ads and they’re not doing it at the plugin level, so it’ll likely outlast the plugin models in Youtube’s race to piss people off.
In the end, if you’re in it for the paid blocking, doesn’t hurt to pay them something if you’re turning off all the stuff they’re using to make money on you.
If you’re in it for any other reason, there are literally dozens of forks you could use that give you the same experience that aren’t trying to sell you as their product.
In the end, if you’re in it for the paid blocking, doesn’t hurt to pay them something
Well other than the LGBTQ community that the CEO funds legislation against, but they don’t really matter /s
The CEO is a POS
I said that, but what do i know.
And followed it up with
In the end, if you’re in it for the paid blocking, doesn’t hurt to pay them something
But what do I know 🙂
It’s sold as a privacy-focused browser but it doesn’t actually have a good track record or features for it. The company has made several questionable choices.
Firefox or fork of choice plus a couple of extensions
Firefox, or its fork Librewolf if you really value privacy.
I’m using waterfox as my dedicated porn browser and have found few faults. Maybe I’ll go that direction for my main browser.
I tried LibreWolf and had issues that I can’t remember now.
Zen is just preselected no telemetry Firefox, also bleeding edge with Firefox updates
Brave is fine ish but they have issues, and a lot of them, which they usually fix within 24 hours but they’ve had a track record of like 8-10 issues per year, so just under once a month.
Don’t downvote me to hell cause it’s a reddit link, sorry, this is the most concise list I know of: https://www.reddit.com/r/browsers/s/AErPH6iMl0
Brave is the only browser I’m aware of whose “issues” rise to the level of “we’re going to hijack your URL bar and insert our own affiliate links”
Apparently it was an auto complete issue that was fixed within 48 hours, but even still, there’s always something wrong with Brave multiple times a year
Imagine actually believing that lol
Of course it was fucking intentional, they just got caught
I said “apparently” lol. It was still a brave referral link they got money from, so i have no doubt it wasn’t a mistake
I haven’t heard of Zen and just checked out the wiki on it.
There are so many browsers! It’s hard to decide. I’ve tried quite a few over the years. Been running Brave as primary for 3-4 years.
I appreciate the Reddit link. Yikes. I’ve noticed the enshittification of Brave but didn’t know all the bad stuff they’ve done.
I do like that Brave works well on all my devices and sync is reliable. I don’t like running different browsers on diff platforms.
Time to do some testing and research…
Yeah, I like sync too and you can use Firefox sync with all Firefox based browsers.
Brave’s ceo also donated to California political efforts to overturn protections for gay marriage in the past
They hate the politics of one of the developers.
Edit: wtf. I’ve gotten downvoted to oblivion in the past for simply mentioning that Brave search has its own search index. Now I try to pass along the message of those downvoters and I get downvoted again.
It’s so hard to find good things as it is. Adding in politics of devs adds yet another layer to it!
I recently started using FUTO keyboard and then learned someone they associate with is a bad dude.
It’s like, come on guys. I’m trying to degoogle, avoid enshittification, and be privacy and security aware… and then there’s this curveball that I have to factor in too.
Brave sucks, lol, I use other browsers
Brave Origin’s main feature isn’t what it adds but what it removes: it scraps email aliases, Leo AI, the VPN tool, the Brave Wallet implementation, and Speedreader, just to name a few features. You can either download a browser with all of those disabled, or you can upgrade your Brave browser with a panel that lets you tweak what ones you want to keep.
This is why I use Waterfox paired with DuckDuckGo tbh. Brave is a scummy company.
Awesome, monetization of enshittification.
I don’t mind paying a fee for a browser. It’s a lot of development time and I use it a lot. But not like this, and not brave.
I donated to firefox and mozilla until i leanred about the payment of the CEO. I will die on the firefox hill but the company has to change.
Explanation: buy a new one with updated back doors.
Reminds me of Anubis charging $50 to remove the :3 moe fox girl.
Not quite the same,
Anubis is open source and changing/removing it can actually be done for free without any laws stopping you,
They kindly ask you to pay them to do it as part of a kind off enterprise service, using the logic that if your website is professional enough to care about a logo, its professional enough to support the work it is relying on.
