DISCLAIMER - I am not planning on fighting a pelican.

there’s a brown pelican that hangs out on the railing of a very narrow portion of a boardwalk nearby. the only reason it makes me nervous is because it’s huge, but their nails look short, and their beaks are pointed, but curved downwards so they would have to try to bite me with that long thing instead of pecking me.

like, if a bird capable of clawing or eating my eyes out attacked my face, I’d honestly have no qualms about killing it immediately. but if I ever get attacked by a pelican, it looks like I could just kind of hold it off without having to hurt it. am I right in that?

  • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
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    14 days ago

    how badly could a pelican fuck me up in a fight?

    DISCLAIMER - I am not planning on fighting a pelican.

    there’s a brown pelican that hangs out…

    Poetry.

    Actually, wait…

    how badly could a

    pelican fuck me up in

    a fight? DISCLAIMER

    .

    I am not planning

    on fighting a pelican.

    There’s a brown peli-

  • xmunk@sh.itjust.works
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    15 days ago

    My knowledge of cartoon physics tells me that birds are essentially immune to any damage. If you punch them in the beak it will just spin around until they, using their opposable thumbs, adjust it back into place. If you punch them in the neck you’ll just leave a temporary fist shaped aberration in their spinal cord which will quickly snap back into place. Aiming for their feet or body is futile since they’ll just instantly dodge your attack by flexing their mass dramatically out of the way and instantly counter with significant emotional damage.

    It is a fight you can’t win good Sir or Madame.

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    13 days ago

    Why is this comment section full of people ridiculing the question in a community called “no stupid questions”? Like, isn’t the entire point here to be able to ask questions that you worry might be stupid without being ridiculed for it?

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      13 days ago

      Every dedicated “ask <xyz-style> questions” community I’ve ever participated in has had a nonzero amount of users who seem to only show up to bitch and moan that, shock! people are asking <xyz-style> questions. I don’t get it either.

  • DandomRude@lemmy.world
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    15 days ago

    Can you please write a review on Google or something? I would love to know how you would rate the Pelican’s performance in your upcoming battle.

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        15 days ago

        Maybe that one?

        Edit: They promise this on their website : “We deliver award-winning customer service by empowering our people to recognise the needs of our customers”.

  • RBWells@lemmy.world
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    14 days ago

    Real answer?

    Don’t fight the pelican. The law is on their side, for one thing.

    No I don’t think you could hold it away from you without hurting it or you. No I don’t think it has any intention of harming you, unless you are a fish. Walk on by, it will either just sit there or fly away.

  • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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    15 days ago

    Pelicans have stupid stumpy little legs, basically no talons because they have webbed ducklike feet, and are able to apply very little biting force with their beaks due to the length. Pelicans feed by scooping things up and swallowing them whole. They don’t bite, tear, or chew. I’ve never seen one try to peck anything. They’re certainly not built for that.

    If you grabbed a pelican by the beak I think there is vanishingly little it could actually do to you aside from squirming and flapping feathers all over the place. You should be fairly clear to yeet the thing into the ocean at your own convenience.

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      15 days ago

      I left this open for a while and forgot what post I was reading when I returned, so I misread your first sentence as “politicians” rather than pelicans…

      And lemme tell you, that was a quality chuckle.

  • _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works
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    15 days ago

    They could scratch you up for sure, maybe poke an eye, but they’re more likely to avoid to than attack unless they’re guarding a nest or something. If they come at you, take off your jacket, an umbrella, or grab a tarp or something and open it up to catch their beak/claws and probably scare them away too.

    If you happen to have something like an air horn, that would also probably scare them off.

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    15 days ago

    Haven’t seen it mentioned here, so a word to the wise: their beaks are somewhere sharp-edged, and if we’re to grasp the beak and your hand were to slide lengthwise (towards or away from the tip), you could sustain a nasty cut.

    Source: adolescent me harassing pelicans that were a lil too inquisitive about my days’ fishing catch on a dock somewhere near Cedar Key, FL.

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    15 days ago

    I’m gonna let everyone in on a lil secret.

    You can absolutely fuck up a bird. Their bones are hollow and light, making them super kickable. Even a 4" human still has multiple feet of height over most species of bird, meaning you can wind up a solid kick and still probably send whatever beaked menace is after you flying. If it comes for your eyes or face, even your weakest punch will give it pause.

    Now, defending yourself from a bird attack without harming the bird attacking you? Yeah that’s really hard, because most of your immediate reactions like trying to grab or restrain it will likely result in hurting the bird.

    • Ellia Plissken@lemm.eeOP
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      15 days ago

      did you know that one of the reasons their bones are hollow is because they assist the lungs with intaking oxygen to provide all the oxygen needed for flight? it’s not just weight saving

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        And where were they now  The little people of Stonehenge  And what would they say to us  If we were here tonight

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        14 days ago

        Canadian Geese are how I got this experience, I used to live in a town that they regularly migrated through and got into two scraps with them in my youth. They’re one of the few birds that I have zero sympathy fucking up, because both times they tried to attack me, I was just trying to quickly get through their territory with my lunch.

        If you’re ever attacked by one, aim for center mass and give it as much force as you can. I’ve never had geese swarm me after seeing one of their comrades get obliterated.

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      I had an incredibly aggressiveale duck that would come after me all the time. He was big, like 20lbs at least, and I’d kick him in the chest with the side ofy foot when he came at me all angry like. His chest was the meatiest part of him, so I wasn’t worried about damaging him with kinda wimpy kicks. Bastard became soup real quickly, though. Overly aggressive birds in my flock don’t get the privilege of being pets.

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        14 days ago

        I too have a chicken-kicking story. Posting now so’s I’ll remember to write it out later.

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        13 days ago

        I also wouldn’t fuck with Turkeys. The wild ones are smart enough to actually try to get the hell away from you. The domestic ones are the stupidest fucking animals on the planet, and unlike sheep, they are MEAN. If they think they have a chance to take you, they’ll get the whole damn flock to dogpile you till you start throwing these 20-30 pound birds.

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        14 days ago

        Realistically, if that person had no regard for the bird, they could’ve just grabbed it and strung it’s neck.

        “Maybe he didn’t want to hurt the animal,” Hensley’s father-in-law, George Koutsogiannis, told the Sun-Times. “Maybe he didn’t fight back enough when the swan attacked him…I can’t understand how this was possible.”

        A single swan can’t actually physically overpower a person, but people can panic and make bad choices, especially when in water and confronted with aggressive wildlife.

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          13 days ago

          That’s why I specifically said ‘while kayaking’ but also I’ve cared for geese, roosters, and swans.

          Ever been attacked by any of those animals? I have. Roosters are the worst. They have these sharp spikes on their legs that draw blood. I’ve kicked a rooster with everything i had because it was spurring me and going for my face. Itd didnt just die, thing kept coming at me. I kicked it several times without holding back and it just kept attacking. Took two people to catch it so i could get in my car. The rooster was fine. I was scratched to hell.

          That rooster was small. Now imagine a goose or swan with the same attitude.

          I’ve worked many farms and those birds don’t fuck around. If youre so confident by all means fuck around with those birds and find out. I won’t stop you.

          • Dasus@lemmy.world
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            13 days ago

            Geese and swan don’t have anything sharp, and I’m sure had you wanted to, you could’ve grabbed the cock by the neck and wrung it without it being able to actually kill you.

            Annoying and perhaps even need medical attention for scratches? Yeah. KILL YOU?

            Nah.

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              13 days ago

              I think you’re misunderstanding me here.

              The way birds attack is basically the embodiment of chaos. Grabbing a flapping, sqwaking, incredibly fast and pissed off bird isn’t easy, near impossible. I wanted to snap that roosters neck, and tried to grab his fucking legs as they coming at me. Needed help that day lol

              I used to have to catch these bastards and put them in the coop every night. It was my least favorite part of the job. The hens were a delight, loved them. Roosters and geese can fuck off though.

              Sure, one might not kill you, but add in a body of water, slick mud, obstacles(things geese and swans are around frequently) ect and someone can definitely get very injured or die because they got knocked over and hit their head or whatever. Plus they’re really goddamn aggressive and that can surprise people.

              Exercise caution, and don’t underestimate them my friend.

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                13 days ago

                Sure, one might not kill you

                My point exactly, mister bird expert.

                someone can definitely get very injured or die because they got knocked over and hit their head or whatever

                That can happen literally anywhere, anytime, to anyone, with no influence from any sort of avian.

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                  13 days ago

                  If you wish to be careless around aggressive birds go ahead.

                  I’m advising caution for reasonable folks who actually wish to minimize injury to themselves and don’t get a hit of dopamine from being deliberately contrarian online.

                  Enjoy your day my friend! Hope you got your fix.

  • Stamau123@lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    Pelicans have hollow bones. You’d be able to easily break it in half if there was a real fight.

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            13 days ago

            Pelicans are naturally offended by bananas, a printout might work but a pocket banana is a solid distraction technique so you can get it pinned.

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              13 days ago

              they couldn’t be naturally offended by bananas, as what we recognize as a banana is completely man-made. they must be unnaturally offended by it, or we bred the banana in such a way that it looks exactly like something that used to be offended by

              probably pelican dildos.

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                They’re offended by their existence as an abomination on the natural order of things, pelicans are extremely strict in their interpretation of scientific ethics and their adherence to it.

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    13 days ago

    I don’t know if he’d fuck you per se. But he might make sweet sweet love to you

    Cue the Barry manilow

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    13 days ago

    The best way to fight is to prevent it from happening in the first place. I would recommend carrying an air horn or whistle and use the noise to scare it off.

    • Ellia Plissken@lemm.eeOP
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      13 days ago

      I deal with a lot of unleashed dogs around here going after my dog so I’m already carrying pepper spray. it’s too bad avians are immune to it.

      actually it’s not THAT bad. pepper spraying a seabird would probably end up with it drowning because it can’t see where it’s flying