Just found out soap is alkaline. If you run out of antacids and your acid reflux is really bad, can you eat soap to settle your tummy? This post inspired by eating chalk for acid reflux.

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  • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
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    4 months ago

    Well, no, not really.

    Reflux is a definite no because that’s not “just” heartburn. Treating chronic reflux with something like tums or rolaids isn’t a great idea to begin with, and soap would cause even more problems.

    But, even “just” heartburn is a no.

    For one, the Ph is too high. You want to bring the acid to neutral, or close, in the esophagus; and the Ph of most soap is going to take it way past neutral and into alkaline.

    Most soaps? They’re bad for skin because the Ph is too high. It fucks up all kinds of stuff, and the more delicate the skin, the worse the effect. Like, your average soap is going to run around 9-10. Skin is around 5-6. The esophagus is going to hover around 7 normally, with it going to around 4 or below during chronic reflux (with occasional bouts staying a tad closer to 5 or 6). Most antacids would end up being around 8ish, at least the brand names.

    I’d have to run the math to figure out what exactly the results would be with a pure alkaline being swallowed in terms of end Ph, but it doesn’t really matter. Soap isn’t a pure alkaline. It’s a mix of things. Mind you, that’s all sketched out since I’m at the very limit of my chemistry here, but the general idea holds. Don’t try and use my numbers on a test or anything.

    And that mix, even though it won’t kill you or even put you in a hospital barring weird shit going on, ain’t going to settle your stomach. For one, the most common effect of swallowing soap is vomiting. Kids get into soap occasionally, and they puke it back up more often than not. Idiot adults sometimes get drunk and take bets, or dares, or whatever other stupidity is going on. They vomit it back up in any but the smallest amounts.

    What they don’t vomit up is going to come out the other end with some force. Some people used to use small amounts of soapy water as a laxative. And it works

    I don’t see a lot of vomiting followed by hours (potentially) of nausea being a good result to treat reflux.

  • CameronDev@programming.dev
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    4 months ago

    I am not a doctor, but if you drink lots of caffeine, it can cause your throat sphincter to loosen and give acid reflux. Maybe put soup in your coffee to even it out /s

  • over_clox@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Uhh, we’re not exactly doctors here, but I don’t recommend eating soap. But hey, you do you.

    Maybe try some Pepto Bismol or something…

  • shalafi@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    The better replacement is baking soda. Mix a tablespoon in a glass of water, chug. It’s gross at first, but it will annihilate heartburn.

    Be warned! The reaction’s byproducts are H2O and CO2, and the reaction doesn’t end in your stomach. Be prepared to expel gas out one end and water out the other.

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      4 months ago

      You’ll notice the gas, but the water comes from the acid being neutralized and won’t really be detectable. You just drank a glass of water too, that’s way more water than a tablespoon of baking soda can produce.

      • shalafi@lemmy.world
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        4 months ago

        The H2O comes from the reaction.

        NaHCO₃ (baking soda) + HCl (hydrochloric acid) → NaCl (sodium chloride) + H₂O (water) + CO₂ (carbon dioxide)

        Water is created. Now pass that through your entire digestive tract full of HCl. Now H20 pops up, uh, where it’s not normally in the pipeline. Does that make sense? You now have water where your guts weren’t prepared to process it?

        In any case, I shit straight liquid if I have to do this trick.

      • shalafi@lemmy.world
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        4 months ago

        Don’t normally have acid reflux, but last night I hit a tablespoon, three times over the night. Yes, that’s quite a bit.

    • xePBMg9@lemmynsfw.com
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      4 months ago

      Is varies from mildly unpleasant to a very unpleasant feeling in your throat. Sometimes it spreads to the chest, though i have never experienced that. Some day you too will feel this feeling. Try eating poorly and much for many days in a row.

  • volvoxvsmarla @lemm.ee
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    4 months ago

    I wouldn’t eat soap simply because it’s amphiphilic, which is why, well, it makes good soap. The molecules have a hydrophilic and a lipophilic side and this will much rather soap off and severely damage the lining of your digestive route, potentially and probably also resulting in dangerous foaming.

    If you take the most simple soap that’s just like potassium ions and negatively charged fatty acid residues, I’m not 100% sure but I doubt that the fatty acids want to accept a proton because they are rather stable when negatively charged, hence they won’t work well to buffer the stomach acid. And again, by the time that the fatty acid thinks about accepting a proton or not it will most likely be soaping up your cells’ membranes.

  • abbadon420@lemm.ee
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    4 months ago

    As a quick remedy for acid reflux, I recommend Marie Biscuits or Rich Tea Biscuits. They kind of seem to absorb the acid reflux… I don’t know how it works, but I always used to have a pack of those Biscuits in my bag when I used to have regular acid reflux. They worked very well for me. Of course, changing my diet and lifestyle worked much better and now I haven’t had acid reflux in years.

  • loomi@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Research the acid reflux diet. It’s helped me. No onions. Limit tomatoes. No mint. Minimal citrus. No multivitamin (this seems unique to me) . No vitamin D (me again).

    On the good list for me Gum, specifically bubblegum with no mint Vanilla ice cream. Milk

    Bette Middler swears by this to preserve her voice