• DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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    It’s gonna be awesome when we’re old and need end of life care and the younger generations are too poor to help us and too stupid to help us even if they weren’t poor.

    We’re headed into a very, very stupid and depressing future. And it’s 100% avoidable.

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    In an analysis of human exposure to climate change extremes — such as heatwaves, floods, droughts, wildfires, cyclones and crop failures — researchers found that children born in 2020 are two to seven times more likely to face one-in-10,000 year events than those who were born in 1960.

    Why pick (great) grandparents as the reference point?

    Wouldn’t it be more practical to compare them with their parents?

    Edit: the actual study does show comparative data for other cohorts (i.e. every decade since 1960). Unless the average LiveScience reader is in their 60s, they just picked a weirdly unrelatable way to describe the study.

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      Just tell her to try and hold things in until tomorrow, that should help.

      Congrats!

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      I’ll do that if you remove every part of your life that touches anything even remotely having to do with oil.

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    And we’re STILL not willing to reign in capitalism.

    We doomed ourselves. My pity is reserved for all the species we’re taking with us in this murder/suicide for short term profit for the avarice diseased. Those capitalists are by far most to blame, but no one that contributes to the capitalist machine, myself included, is without blame for the effectively permanent destruction of our COMMUNal habitat.

    Unless you’re an eco-terrorist who has been actively trying to destroy the capitalist machine, the precious few good guys as far as I’m concerned if your goal is a viable habitat for our species at all beyond the next couple decades, we’ve all been seeing this oncomming train heading towards us our entire lives and done nothing of note.

    We can’t keep living like we’ve been living, as gluttonous consumers with 78 kinds of plastic packaged cereal made a thousand miles away in any form AND survive as a species, and it’s clear which choice we’ve made. We aren’t willing to live closer to the land, to farm the food our community eats, to live small lives understanding we are subject to earth and not the other way around, so we gotta go so life can go on without us.

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      Humans are pretty resilient. I don’t think we’re going to go extinct, unless we do the nuclear winter thing, which I personally believe is inevitable on a long enough timeline. Short of that, we’ll see mass death and an extreme decline in quality of life, but we’ll probably, unfortunately, continue on as a species. Either way, we’ll end up destroying this planet eventually. We simply cannot exist in symbiosis with nature.

      I’m not really on the fence about the bright vs dark future thing anymore, as you can see by my name. It’s pretty much guaranteed we’ve chosen the dark future option.

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        Blah blah ecofascist doomerism. We can live harmonically with nature and have for most of our history. Our current consumerist society isn’t compatible with sustainable and responsible practices but that isn’t a forgone conclusion or intrinsic to human behavior. That’s not to say that we aren’t on a bad path, we absolutely are and a great many organisms are going extinct because of us, but ascribing a moral value to our very existence is the wrong move.

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        Only in a social framework that rewards greed. “Human nature” is almost impossible to understand because it can’t be studied with a control group.

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        Incinerating the planet in the name of profit is a very recent concept.

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    Yeah but don’t stop having kids because we need underpaid nursing home staff to work in the hell we made.

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    Umm actually this is just woke and we should have more children for racist reasons /s

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      Tell that to Africans, and to a few South American countries, they are the only ones who are not crashing and have a viable replacement rate above 2.1… and then some.

      If you were really concerned about over population that is what one would do, but no one here would have the guts for ideological reasons or for fear of being even remotely perceived as possibly a racist. Despite objective statistics. /s

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    Millennials been saying this since we were teens but were told to shut up and sit down

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      GenX been hammered this since we were kids ain’t nothing changing because we are all addicted to this course we are on including you and your generation.

      The sooner we all admit it’s our habits that have collectively caused this the sooner we solve it but we all know that shit isn’t gonna happen so here we are. I feel sorry for my kids and hope one day it gets bad enough that we all agree to change it.

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        The sooner we all admit it’s our habits that have collectively caused this the sooner we solve it but we all know that shit isn’t gonna happen so here we are. I

        Can we acknowledge that most consumer habits are directly driven by the media and large corporations influencing people through news and advertising? Or that corporations have done their best to offload the responsibility for polluting the biosphere onto consumers, even as they knowingly peddled products that had direct damage to ecosystems and pushed habits that did nothing but make consumers feel better about the shitty products they consume (see plastic recycling).

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        Do not blame private citizens for the actions taken by large corporations and governments agencies.

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          There’s plenty of blame to go around.

          Private citizens are supporting shitty companies and electing shitty governments.

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            When there are only two shitty options to choose from, picking the least shitty option doesn’t mean they were the ‘good’ one.

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              issue is some countries and areas have viable affordable alternatives to planet destroying lifestyle habits, but people still chose to destroy the planet

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        Sorry but no. Many understand and hate this path yet there is little choice when the alternati-e is homelessness, starvation and/or jail

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      The study says that people will experience 18 heat waves in their life time, up from 11. A heatwave could be as short as 2 days, or a couple of days or longer. They worry that the temp. Could rise by 3.5C despite current polices will keep us at about 2.4C. It is a bit fearmonger-ey once you read the methodology. They are basing it if you live in Belgium.

      The UK just had a “heatwave,” which was about 26C+ or so, still far from the highest of 34.8C which is the highest recorded in 30+ years.

      Pollution is a bigger problem, with plastic being found in kids developing brains, for example.

      https://www.ehn.org/plastics-neurological-disorders

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    Stop having kids. No, it won’t prevent the climate from going to shit. Yes, it will prevent you from creating new victims.

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      But… but… who will grow the economy so we can get the first trillionaire? Humanity has never existed with less than 2 billion people. Suggesting that lower than replacement birth rates are possible is eco fascist!!1 /s

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        The reality of closing schools, rotting infrastructure, and an aging destitute population that comes from population decline is going to be rough to live through. It’s good for the planet I suppose, but us humans living in this human system are going to suffer.