The interface. I actually have a lemmy alt and I just hate utilizing it due to the web interface. Its the main reason I did kbin and non mbin to begin with. I did quick accounts on each and liked the bins better naviagation and config wise.
No Ads. No corpos. No infinity scroll. No hate. Different opinions. Cool people. My daily bread.
No profit motive. No shady board of directors making deals with a place we are trying to build community.
The people. For both.
Dislike: the daily post from someone asking where they can find “non-political” or “centrist” communities, which is a dog whistle that they’re tired of being yelled at for their shitty views
Or that they just want to get away from politics for five minutes.
Just want to browse cat pics for a while? Believe or not, centrism.
Did you know that wanting to browse cat pics is just a distraction from the oppression of late stage capitalism by the bourgeoisie?
“which is a dog whistle that they’re tired of being yelled at for their shitty views” 🤨 you’re trolling right? Like @[email protected] says “they just wanna get away from politics” … not everyone cares to have a political opinion and likely just wanna avoid the hostility or nuances that comes with politics discussion. I myself would rather see to much more pleasant things that isn’t just abunch chaos and steam. Wouldn’t you rather enjoy your time than to be a salty bitter lad?
My only gripe is it is EXTREMELY left leaning in general, and if anyone has a less polarizing opinion about something the hive mind reacts.
Not to mention you can’t talk about anything political without someone bringing up how my political views promote genocide.
I once compared demanding that people use a certain pronoun to demanding that women wear burkas. Got banned from the lemmy instance for that one. These are not rational people.
The assholes who pretend to argue in good faith but just spout stupid bullshit.
Oh, and the idiots who block everyone they don’t like.
Reddit 2.0 lol
But what do you dislike?
Lol, you got me for a minute.
Simmillar to me i hate the assholes who accuse you of arguing in bad faith while symultaniously calling you a moronic asshole fascist.
I like the way Lemmy functions, with things like an open moderator log and the way that instances can be created to prevent too much control from one singular instance from pushing people completely off the platform if they have bad moderation, for example.
I don’t like the users. For every one user that is nice and wants to have a legitimate conversation, there are like 300 that just want to fight/argue or spew politics into a non-political conversation. The number of users I have blocked on Lemmy is far longer than the amount of users I ever blocked on Reddit, and my Reddit account existed for about 10 years. This Lemmy account has only been around for about 1/10th of that.
One of the biggest strengths of Lemmy is also one of its biggest curses. Due to its federated nature, anyone can create a new instance. The problem with this is that particularly nasty users can keep creating accounts on instances they keep creating in order to harass people they don’t like. So even if you block them, they just switch to a new account, etc. They can also do this for vote manipulation, not like that really matters on Lemmy but Lemmy users seem to have fallen victim to the same problem Redditors had: seeing a comment with 0 or -1 score and then completely disregarding whatever it said, not reading it and downvoting it automatically.
“I like the way Lemmy functions, with things like an open moderator log and the way that instances can be created to prevent too much control from one singular instance from pushing people completely off the platform if they have bad moderation, for example.”
Oh yeah that seems an excellent way to keep a power balance between users and moderation. Hadn’t used reddit all that much, but heard of the nightmarish moderation abuse.
“I don’t like the users. For every one user that is nice and wants to have a legitimate conversation, there are like 300 that just want to fight/argue or spew politics into a non-political conversation.”
Sadly is a big issue with many platforms where politics is used for excuse to mental flex, invalidate, clout motives, and flat out bully. So i try to avoid politics or deflect and avoid people who just looking to argue for the sake of argueing to assert dominance. Too many headaches online deal with.
“The number of users I have blocked on Lemmy is far longer than the amount of users I ever blocked on Reddit, and my Reddit account existed for about 10 years.”
I might do the same tbh, i can see there are quite a bit of users needing filtered out on lemmy. Can also see some get angry knowing that people would rather just block em’ and not engage with them because then they can’t fuel their clout driven ego 🙂
“The problem with this is that particularly nasty users can keep creating accounts on instances they keep creating in order to harass people they don’t like. So even if you block them, they just switch to a new account, etc.”
Perhaps this could be resolved by implementing a user follow list and making it so users can only be interacted with if the user approves the follower who is trying to follow em’
“They can also do this for vote manipulation, not like that really matters on Lemmy but Lemmy users seem to have fallen victim to the same problem Redditors had: seeing a comment with 0 or -1 score and then completely disregarding whatever it said, not reading it and downvoting it automatically.”
Imo i think lemmy could just do away with a voting system, it would reduce cognitive bias by not giving them a sense of popularity contest to determine if it’s worth reading a user’s post or comment. People should judge for themselves rather than having others do it for them.
You seem a a reasonably decent person btw.
The problem with no voting system whatsoever is that content then surfaces by recency and/or replies, so people generate a lot of noise to make stuff they agree more visible.
That said the current system is by no means perfect, and I agree with you that people should judge content by themselves.
I encourage aggressive blocking. Without it, the assholes drive the decent people away over time.
I’d be fine without voting, too. I am glad they at least got rid of karma.
What I like: The effort and persistence of the developers
What I dislike: The ActivityPub protocol.
I think it’s the best at what it does. That problem space doesn’t have a lot of good options.
I like that it’s moderated fairly lightly but reasonably. Often I can have an actual discussion with someone who doesn’t agree with me without either of us getting banned by a mod who likes one side or the other. From what I see generally a user needs to be very obviously abusive/racist/violent before a mod steps in, even if the content is controversial.
I dislike that I’ve needed to heavily restrict my use for my mental health until after the election. A lot of people (not all by any means) believe it’s ok to bully and abuse other users so long as they’re sure the cause is righteous. Obvious examples are the daily posts/comments, with a lot of upvotes/support, that label anyone who disagrees with or criticizes Kamala (used to be Biden)/Democrats a bot, idiot, worse than useless, foreign agent and so on. Just to be clear I’m not talking about downvoting which is just expressing disagreement - I’m talking about outright insults. The attitude of “vote with/support me or else” has no place in a democracy founded on free voting without persecution, even if the bully is sure they’re right. If I didn’t mention it, perhaps even if I do, someone may say a version of “but it is actually ok this time” and give reasons why. It’s happened before.
Guess what? Very few “policy bullies” think they are evil - they’re positive they’re justified. Christians demand abortion bans, Muslim deportation, religion in schools/government and so on because they truly believe they are saving eternal souls. I was raised in that environment. That a sizable amount of Lemmy users believe it’s correct/admirable to insult others into “proper” behavior makes them very similar in character to those religious extremists IMO. Apparently when the issue is really important abuse is ok.
I’ll just end by saying Gaza/Palestine is incredibly important to me - I am legitimately very upset frequently by the stories and media. However, I was convinced to support Biden and then Kamala by Bernie Sanders. Bernie laid out his argument with logic and facts and did not once insult my position. I also doubt the posts/comment insults I see all over are winning over undecideds. “I wasn’t sure if I should vote Democrat until I was called a harmful idiot and had my concerns dismissed as being in bad faith”.
needs more porn
Lemmynsfw does pretty well. It’s a shame that the main instances don’t federate with the porn instances, but it does nicely prevent either from overwhelming the other.
lemmy.world federated with lemmynsfw. I have blocked probably 50 communities from there already because I don’t want that but if you want it, make a .world account
So … if I tag [email protected] I should be able to see it?
Edit: nope. Unless I have the syntax wrong somehow.
oh you might need to go into your account settings and turn on nsfw content
I dislike that Lemmy is such a left-wing echo chamber. Reddit had a much wider variety of opinions being voiced openly; on Lemmy, there’s almost none. It doesn’t take long to figure out what’s acceptable to say here and what isn’t. It’s a kind of self-gaslighting because it can make you feel like the opinions of the average Lemmy user represent the wider population when that couldn’t be further from the truth.
Also, there are almost no blue-collar workers here, and most discussions revolve around office jobs and big city life.
Personally don’t like the constant echoing of political positions or takes but that’s in my experience equal on both platforms.
I cba. The thing I like more on Lemmy is slight more civilly discussions or what’s being shared.
Just hate how its always have to be polarized to what side you lean on ot emphasis on.
Defaulting on the American aspect of things as well.
Not really, liberals here tend to overpower and speak over leftist voices. Any time a Leftist disagrees with Kamala or points out a legitimate concern swarms of smug liberals say “erm akshurally what about trump you Russian bot”.
(Liberal =/= left-wing)
The US has a left lean (“left” by US standards). What I mean by that is it’s not an even split. The majority of Americans lean left. The only reasons the right has any power in this country is due to the first past the post voting system, gerrymandering, voter suppression, and the electoral college.
I meet Trump supporters everyday. I see signs on the lawn in every town. I hear them speak in media regularly.
I like that it’s not reddit in terms of toxicity and powerdrunk mods. I really like the apps accessing Lemmy and the general tone in comments and discussion. As a German the community ich_iel is most of the content I need.
I dislike how long it took me to filter out the words „Elon“ and „musk“ because every second post on c/technology is about that man. Phew, my life is better without it. (I really like being able to filter)
The 14 year olds with “big brain” takes.
Like or dislike?
I don’t mind the kids themselves, I might have been a teenage embodiment of edge too, but it sucks how many adults get pulled into childish fighting about nothing, instead of having a teaching moment.
It makes the platform seem immature and childish.
All the trolls.